g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2016\2016-April.txt.txt ************************************************************************ From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Apr 2 01:51:44 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Yuri Regelman via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 16:51:44 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) Message-ID: Hi Everyone, After several years of remission, my Nakamichi bug came back with a vengeance.. I had a ZX-9 stashed away, that I started to rehabilitate. One of the issues I'm noticing is that high frequency response is attenuated while recording on a TDK MA tape by as much as 4-5db at 20k. Type 1 and type 2 tapes record with a relatively flat response to 20k @-20db. Playback response also seems ok, at least judging by recordings made on my rx505 which goes flat to 20k. (I don't have calibration tapes for frequencies above 15k, so a couple of good reference decks is all I've got). If I tweak the bias to bring the 20k recording response up to where it should be, then 6-12k region gets pushed up too much. The bias frequency is correct 105k. I also tried tuning the bias trap on the recording amp, thinking that a bias leak may affect the recording amp and is stronger with metal tapes. But it was already near the optimum setting and my adjustments did not have much effect. Could anyone here shed some light on this and point me in the right direction? On a separate note, I've tried taking off the front plate, and backed off because I was not sure how to proceed... I've had no such problems with any other Nak deck (Dragons, CR-5/7, LX5, 680zx etc, etc.. but ZX-9 had me on the ropes. Is there anything special I should know about taking off the front of the ZX-9, or was I just too faint of heart? Thanks, Yuri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Apr 2 16:54:12 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (John Gipps via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 00:54:12 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) - Yuri Regelman Message-ID: <02c701d18cef$89180460$9b480d20$@aol.com> Hi Yuri I would be reasonably confident that your ZX-9 has some head wear - Record head, Playback head, or both. It is my experience that if a deck performs well on lower bias tapes, but starts to drop off prematurely on high bias tapes, all other adjustments having been done correctly, then it is head wear. You've tried decreasing the bias to try to pull the 20KHz up, and you've found that this is causing a hump at lower frequencies. Normally when this happens, with an underbiased condition, you will also end up with an increase in THD at 400Hz. My advice would be to readjust the MA bias so that the response is flat at lower frequencies (say 10KHz), and accept the roll off at frequencies above 15KHz or so on MA. By doing this, your THD at 400Hz will go back to normal, and the subjective results will be a lot better than in the underbiased state. If it was in my system, I wouldn't bother using MA tape on it, but stick to a good SX position tape - eg TDK SAX. As you've said, the responses on SX tapes are still good, and the subject results will also be good. I imagine that getting hold of a set of heads in good condition will be difficult or expensive. Good luck with it. Regards John Gipps -----Original Message----- From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of via Naktalk Sent: Saturday, 2 April 2016 8:00 PM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: Naktalk Digest, Vol 157, Issue 1 Send Naktalk mailing list submissions to naktalk at lists.naks.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to naktalk-request at lists.naks.com You can reach the person managing the list at naktalk-owner at lists.naks.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Naktalk digest..." Naktalk digest mailing list Please be careful when replying to this digest mail. A good suggestion is to only subscribe in digest mode if you only want to want to get the latest news but don't want to participate in discussion. Otherwise, don't go with digest mode. If you decide to reply anyway, reply to the message itself, so remove the digested email from the reply message and copy the subject to the reply message... you really need to know what you are doing. Digest messages that are replied to without taking any of these precautions may get discarded. Today's Topics: 1. ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) (Yuri Regelman via Naktalk) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 16:51:44 -0700 From: Yuri Regelman via Naktalk To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Everyone, After several years of remission, my Nakamichi bug came back with a vengeance.. I had a ZX-9 stashed away, that I started to rehabilitate. One of the issues I'm noticing is that high frequency response is attenuated while recording on a TDK MA tape by as much as 4-5db at 20k. Type 1 and type 2 tapes record with a relatively flat response to 20k @-20db. Playback response also seems ok, at least judging by recordings made on my rx505 which goes flat to 20k. (I don't have calibration tapes for frequencies above 15k, so a couple of good reference decks is all I've got). If I tweak the bias to bring the 20k recording response up to where it should be, then 6-12k region gets pushed up too much. The bias frequency is correct 105k. I also tried tuning the bias trap on the recording amp, thinking that a bias leak may affect the recording amp and is stronger with metal tapes. But it was already near the optimum setting and my adjustments did not have much effect. Could anyone here shed some light on this and point me in the right direction? On a separate note, I've tried taking off the front plate, and backed off because I was not sure how to proceed... I've had no such problems with any other Nak deck (Dragons, CR-5/7, LX5, 680zx etc, etc.. but ZX-9 had me on the ropes. Is there anything special I should know about taking off the front of the ZX-9, or was I just too faint of heart? Thanks, Yuri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ------------------------------ End of Naktalk Digest, Vol 157, Issue 1 *************************************** From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Apr 3 06:01:20 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ali Hingoro via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 06:01:20 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yuri , I can tell you having taken out the front panel myself it very very difficult if you don't know what you are doing you can actually make thing worse let a professional like wildly Herman in California USA work on it , it can be expensive but the tapedeck will work great for many years, thanks! Sikander Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 2, 2016, at 1:51 AM, Yuri Regelman via Naktalk wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > After several years of remission, my Nakamichi bug came back with a vengeance.. > I had a ZX-9 stashed away, that I started to rehabilitate. > One of the issues I'm noticing is that high frequency response is attenuated while recording on a TDK MA tape by as much as 4-5db at 20k. Type 1 and type 2 tapes record with a relatively flat response to 20k @-20db. Playback response also seems ok, at least judging by recordings made on my rx505 which goes flat to 20k. (I don't have calibration tapes for frequencies above 15k, so a couple of good reference decks is all I've got). > If I tweak the bias to bring the 20k recording response up to where it should be, then 6-12k region gets pushed up too much. The bias frequency is correct 105k. I also tried tuning the bias trap on the recording amp, thinking that a bias leak may affect the recording amp and is stronger with metal tapes. But it was already near the optimum setting and my adjustments did not have much effect. Could anyone here shed some light on this and point me in the right direction? > > On a separate note, I've tried taking off the front plate, and backed off because I was not sure how to proceed... I've had no such problems with any other Nak deck (Dragons, CR-5/7, LX5, 680zx etc, etc.. but ZX-9 had me on the ropes. Is there anything special I should know about taking off the front of the ZX-9, or was I just too faint of heart? > > Thanks, > Yuri > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Apr 4 02:35:15 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Yuri Regelman via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 17:35:15 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) - Yuri Regelman In-Reply-To: <02c701d18cef$89180460$9b480d20$@aol.com> References: <02c701d18cef$89180460$9b480d20$@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi John, Thank you for the insight. I am beginning to suspect head wear or perhaps something else mechanical as well. The reason it was not high on my list initially is due to the fact that the deck does not appear to have been used too much, judging by the overall condition and the look of the transport. The heads look OK, but I'm no expert in judging head wear by appearance. The playback response seems OK, and I was hoping that could be an indication of wear not only of the playback head but record head as well. Sounds like that assumption may not be correct... I do have a donor LX5 with ruler flat response, which I bought for parts but ended up rebuilding recently... Head swap may be justifiable given relative merits of the two decks, but that would be a pretty big project for me, since I can't even get the front panel off the zx-9 :) Before I go there, I'll spend a little more time on the electronics.. enough things seem off with electronics to keep me suspicious that there is more there... For example, the level meter seems to be very frequency dependent showing lowered reading on frequencies below 200Hz. Measuring frequency response of the deck in Source mode also shows about 1db dip at higher frequencies... could be deteriorating capacitors. Thanks, Yuri On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 7:54 AM, John Gipps via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Hi Yuri > > I would be reasonably confident that your ZX-9 has some head wear - Record > head, Playback head, or both. It is my experience that if a deck performs > well on lower bias tapes, but starts to drop off prematurely on high bias > tapes, all other adjustments having been done correctly, then it is head > wear. You've tried decreasing the bias to try to pull the 20KHz up, and > you've found that this is causing a hump at lower frequencies. Normally > when this happens, with an underbiased condition, you will also end up with > an increase in THD at 400Hz. > > My advice would be to readjust the MA bias so that the response is flat at > lower frequencies (say 10KHz), and accept the roll off at frequencies above > 15KHz or so on MA. By doing this, your THD at 400Hz will go back to normal, > and the subjective results will be a lot better than in the underbiased > state. > > If it was in my system, I wouldn't bother using MA tape on it, but stick > to a good SX position tape - eg TDK SAX. As you've said, the responses on > SX tapes are still good, and the subject results will also be good. I > imagine that getting hold of a set of heads in good condition will be > difficult or expensive. Good luck with it. > > Regards > > John Gipps > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of via > Naktalk > Sent: Saturday, 2 April 2016 8:00 PM > To: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: Naktalk Digest, Vol 157, Issue 1 > > Send Naktalk mailing list submissions to > naktalk at lists.naks.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > naktalk-request at lists.naks.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > naktalk-owner at lists.naks.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Naktalk digest..." > > > Naktalk digest mailing list > > Please be careful when replying to this digest mail. A good suggestion is > to only subscribe in digest mode if you only want to want to get the latest > news but don't want to participate in discussion. Otherwise, don't go with > digest mode. > > If you decide to reply anyway, reply to the message itself, so remove the > digested email from the reply message and copy the subject to the reply > message... you really need to know what you are doing. > > Digest messages that are replied to without taking any of these > precautions may get discarded. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) > (Yuri Regelman via Naktalk) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 16:51:44 -0700 > From: Yuri Regelman via Naktalk > To: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) > Message-ID: > x39RihY0BrgJUQD9A3PBiYJBEg at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Everyone, > After several years of remission, my Nakamichi bug came back with a > vengeance.. > I had a ZX-9 stashed away, that I started to rehabilitate. > One of the issues I'm noticing is that high frequency response is > attenuated while recording on a TDK MA tape by as much as 4-5db at 20k. > Type 1 and type 2 tapes record with a relatively flat response to 20k > @-20db. Playback response also seems ok, at least judging by recordings > made on my rx505 which goes flat to 20k. (I don't have calibration tapes > for frequencies above 15k, so a couple of good reference decks is all I've > got). > If I tweak the bias to bring the 20k recording response up to where it > should be, then 6-12k region gets pushed up too much. The bias frequency > is correct 105k. I also tried tuning the bias trap on the recording amp, > thinking that a bias leak may affect the recording amp and is stronger with > metal tapes. But it was already near the optimum setting and my > adjustments did not have much effect. Could anyone here shed some light on > this and point me in the right direction? > > On a separate note, I've tried taking off the front plate, and backed off > because I was not sure how to proceed... I've had no such problems with > any other Nak deck (Dragons, CR-5/7, LX5, 680zx etc, etc.. but ZX-9 had me > on the ropes. Is there anything special I should know about taking off the > front of the ZX-9, or was I just too faint of heart? > > Thanks, > Yuri > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.naks.com/mailman/private/naktalk/attachments/20160401/ebb381e2/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your > account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Naktalk Digest, Vol 157, Issue 1 > *************************************** > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Apr 4 10:54:01 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (David Thompson via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 18:54:01 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) - Yuri Regelman In-Reply-To: References: <02c701d18cef$89180460$9b480d20$@aol.com> Message-ID: I have the opposite problem with a ZX9 ­ the ZX bias and level come up well but the EX and SX not enough. Taking off the front cover of the ZX9 is not that difficult - remove top and bottom covers and cassette door cover, then pull out all the knobs from the right section except the 3 push rockers but including all the small bias and level ones. Then undo 4 screws each on the top and bottom of the front panel that were hidden under the other covers. Be careful then of the plastic rod connected between the power switch at the front and the actual switch inside at the back. It has a twist fitting at the front. Taking out the transport is another process if you are going that far. All the best David From: Naktalk on behalf of Yuri Regelman via Naktalk Reply-To: Yuri Regelman , Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Date: Monday, 4 April 2016 at 10:35 AM To: John Gipps , Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) - Yuri Regelman Hi John, Thank you for the insight. I am beginning to suspect head wear or perhaps something else mechanical as well. The reason it was not high on my list initially is due to the fact that the deck does not appear to have been used too much, judging by the overall condition and the look of the transport. The heads look OK, but I'm no expert in judging head wear by appearance. The playback response seems OK, and I was hoping that could be an indication of wear not only of the playback head but record head as well. Sounds like that assumption may not be correct... I do have a donor LX5 with ruler flat response, which I bought for parts but ended up rebuilding recently... Head swap may be justifiable given relative merits of the two decks, but that would be a pretty big project for me, since I can't even get the front panel off the zx-9 :) Before I go there, I'll spend a little more time on the electronics.. enough things seem off with electronics to keep me suspicious that there is more there... For example, the level meter seems to be very frequency dependent showing lowered reading on frequencies below 200Hz. Measuring frequency response of the deck in Source mode also shows about 1db dip at higher frequencies... could be deteriorating capacitors. Thanks, Yuri On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 7:54 AM, John Gipps via Naktalk wrote: > Hi Yuri > > I would be reasonably confident that your ZX-9 has some head wear - Record > head, Playback head, or both. It is my experience that if a deck performs well > on lower bias tapes, but starts to drop off prematurely on high bias tapes, > all other adjustments having been done correctly, then it is head wear. You've > tried decreasing the bias to try to pull the 20KHz up, and you've found that > this is causing a hump at lower frequencies. Normally when this happens, with > an underbiased condition, you will also end up with an increase in THD at > 400Hz. > > My advice would be to readjust the MA bias so that the response is flat at > lower frequencies (say 10KHz), and accept the roll off at frequencies above > 15KHz or so on MA. By doing this, your THD at 400Hz will go back to normal, > and the subjective results will be a lot better than in the underbiased state. > > If it was in my system, I wouldn't bother using MA tape on it, but stick to a > good SX position tape - eg TDK SAX. As you've said, the responses on SX tapes > are still good, and the subject results will also be good. I imagine that > getting hold of a set of heads in good condition will be difficult or > expensive. Good luck with it. > > Regards > > John Gipps > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of via Naktalk > Sent: Saturday, 2 April 2016 8:00 PM > To: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: Naktalk Digest, Vol 157, Issue 1 > > Send Naktalk mailing list submissions to > naktalk at lists.naks.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > naktalk-request at lists.naks.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > naktalk-owner at lists.naks.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: > Contents of Naktalk digest..." > > > Naktalk digest mailing list > > Please be careful when replying to this digest mail. A good suggestion is to > only subscribe in digest mode if you only want to want to get the latest news > but don't want to participate in discussion. Otherwise, don't go with digest > mode. > > If you decide to reply anyway, reply to the message itself, so remove the > digested email from the reply message and copy the subject to the reply > message... you really need to know what you are doing. > > Digest messages that are replied to without taking any of these precautions > may get discarded. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) > (Yuri Regelman via Naktalk) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 16:51:44 -0700 > From: Yuri Regelman via Naktalk > To: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Everyone, > After several years of remission, my Nakamichi bug came back with a > vengeance.. > I had a ZX-9 stashed away, that I started to rehabilitate. > One of the issues I'm noticing is that high frequency response is attenuated > while recording on a TDK MA tape by as much as 4-5db at 20k. > Type 1 and type 2 tapes record with a relatively flat response to 20k @-20db. > Playback response also seems ok, at least judging by recordings made on my > rx505 which goes flat to 20k. (I don't have calibration tapes for frequencies > above 15k, so a couple of good reference decks is all I've got). > If I tweak the bias to bring the 20k recording response up to where it should > be, then 6-12k region gets pushed up too much. The bias frequency is correct > 105k. I also tried tuning the bias trap on the recording amp, thinking that a > bias leak may affect the recording amp and is stronger with metal tapes. But > it was already near the optimum setting and my adjustments did not have much > effect. Could anyone here shed some light on this and point me in the right > direction? > > On a separate note, I've tried taking off the front plate, and backed off > because I was not sure how to proceed... I've had no such problems with any > other Nak deck (Dragons, CR-5/7, LX5, 680zx etc, etc.. but ZX-9 had me on the > ropes. Is there anything special I should know about taking off the front of > the ZX-9, or was I just too faint of heart? > > Thanks, > Yuri > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ttachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your > account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Naktalk Digest, Vol 157, Issue 1 > *************************************** > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Apr 4 18:47:29 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Yuri Regelman via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 09:47:29 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) - Yuri Regelman In-Reply-To: References: <02c701d18cef$89180460$9b480d20$@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi David, It sounds like you may have an over-bias for EX and SX. Make sure when you start the record cal, your bias and level knobs are centered. If that does not help, then you may have to re-calibrate the bias section of the deck. As far as the front cover, that's pretty much what I did. Not sure now what exactly stopped me, I think it may have been azimuth adjustment assembly.. I'll try again Thanks, Yuri On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 1:54 AM, David Thompson wrote: > I have the opposite problem with a ZX9 – the ZX bias and level come up > well but the EX and SX not enough. > > Taking off the front cover of the ZX9 is not that difficult - remove top > and bottom covers and cassette door cover, then pull out all the knobs from > the right section except the 3 push rockers but including all the small > bias and level ones. Then undo 4 screws each on the top and bottom of the > front panel that were hidden under the other covers. Be careful then of the > plastic rod connected between the power switch at the front and the actual > switch inside at the back. It has a twist fitting at the front. Taking out > the transport is another process if you are going that far. > > All the best > David > > From: Naktalk on behalf of Yuri Regelman > via Naktalk > Reply-To: Yuri Regelman , Talk about Nakamichi > Cassette Decks > Date: Monday, 4 April 2016 at 10:35 AM > To: John Gipps , Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) - > Yuri Regelman > > Hi John, > Thank you for the insight. I am beginning to suspect head wear or perhaps > something else mechanical as well. The reason it was not high on my list > initially is due to the fact that the deck does not appear to have been > used too much, judging by the overall condition and the look of the > transport. The heads look OK, but I'm no expert in judging head wear by > appearance. The playback response seems OK, and I was hoping that could be > an indication of wear not only of the playback head but record head as > well. Sounds like that assumption may not be correct... > I do have a donor LX5 with ruler flat response, which I bought for parts > but ended up rebuilding recently... Head swap may be justifiable given > relative merits of the two decks, but that would be a pretty big project > for me, since I can't even get the front panel off the zx-9 :) Before I go > there, I'll spend a little more time on the electronics.. enough things > seem off with electronics to keep me suspicious that there is more > there... For example, the level meter seems to be very frequency dependent > showing lowered reading on frequencies below 200Hz. Measuring frequency > response of the deck in Source mode also shows about 1db dip at higher > frequencies... could be deteriorating capacitors. > Thanks, > Yuri > > > On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 7:54 AM, John Gipps via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > >> Hi Yuri >> >> I would be reasonably confident that your ZX-9 has some head wear - >> Record head, Playback head, or both. It is my experience that if a deck >> performs well on lower bias tapes, but starts to drop off prematurely on >> high bias tapes, all other adjustments having been done correctly, then it >> is head wear. You've tried decreasing the bias to try to pull the 20KHz up, >> and you've found that this is causing a hump at lower frequencies. Normally >> when this happens, with an underbiased condition, you will also end up with >> an increase in THD at 400Hz. >> >> My advice would be to readjust the MA bias so that the response is flat >> at lower frequencies (say 10KHz), and accept the roll off at frequencies >> above 15KHz or so on MA. By doing this, your THD at 400Hz will go back to >> normal, and the subjective results will be a lot better than in the >> underbiased state. >> >> If it was in my system, I wouldn't bother using MA tape on it, but stick >> to a good SX position tape - eg TDK SAX. As you've said, the responses on >> SX tapes are still good, and the subject results will also be good. I >> imagine that getting hold of a set of heads in good condition will be >> difficult or expensive. Good luck with it. >> >> Regards >> >> John Gipps >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of via >> Naktalk >> Sent: Saturday, 2 April 2016 8:00 PM >> To: naktalk at lists.naks.com >> Subject: Naktalk Digest, Vol 157, Issue 1 >> >> Send Naktalk mailing list submissions to >> naktalk at lists.naks.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> naktalk-request at lists.naks.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> naktalk-owner at lists.naks.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >> "Re: Contents of Naktalk digest..." >> >> >> Naktalk digest mailing list >> >> Please be careful when replying to this digest mail. A good suggestion is >> to only subscribe in digest mode if you only want to want to get the latest >> news but don't want to participate in discussion. Otherwise, don't go with >> digest mode. >> >> If you decide to reply anyway, reply to the message itself, so remove the >> digested email from the reply message and copy the subject to the reply >> message... you really need to know what you are doing. >> >> Digest messages that are replied to without taking any of these >> precautions may get discarded. >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) >> (Yuri Regelman via Naktalk) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 16:51:44 -0700 >> From: Yuri Regelman via Naktalk >> To: naktalk at lists.naks.com >> Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) >> Message-ID: >> > x39RihY0BrgJUQD9A3PBiYJBEg at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hi Everyone, >> After several years of remission, my Nakamichi bug came back with a >> vengeance.. >> I had a ZX-9 stashed away, that I started to rehabilitate. >> One of the issues I'm noticing is that high frequency response is >> attenuated while recording on a TDK MA tape by as much as 4-5db at 20k. >> Type 1 and type 2 tapes record with a relatively flat response to 20k >> @-20db. Playback response also seems ok, at least judging by recordings >> made on my rx505 which goes flat to 20k. (I don't have calibration tapes >> for frequencies above 15k, so a couple of good reference decks is all I've >> got). >> If I tweak the bias to bring the 20k recording response up to where it >> should be, then 6-12k region gets pushed up too much. The bias frequency >> is correct 105k. I also tried tuning the bias trap on the recording amp, >> thinking that a bias leak may affect the recording amp and is stronger with >> metal tapes. But it was already near the optimum setting and my >> adjustments did not have much effect. Could anyone here shed some light on >> this and point me in the right direction? >> >> On a separate note, I've tried taking off the front plate, and backed off >> because I was not sure how to proceed... I've had no such problems with >> any other Nak deck (Dragons, CR-5/7, LX5, 680zx etc, etc.. but ZX-9 had me >> on the ropes. Is there anything special I should know about taking off the >> front of the ZX-9, or was I just too faint of heart? >> >> Thanks, >> Yuri >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.naks.com/mailman/private/naktalk/attachments/20160401/ebb381e2/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your >> account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Naktalk Digest, Vol 157, Issue 1 >> *************************************** >> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: >> http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: > http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <5DD25FCBC1014142B0337BC0EE18F4B2@PeterOliTowPC> References: <5DD25FCBC1014142B0337BC0EE18F4B2@PeterOliTowPC> Message-ID: <39882067.21503.1460578455906.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Had anybody replaced the belt ( Flat belt) ? and any idea who sells correct size belt?kannan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Apr 13 22:14:15 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 20:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Nak 350 Belt ? In-Reply-To: <5DD25FCBC1014142B0337BC0EE18F4B2@PeterOliTowPC> References: <5DD25FCBC1014142B0337BC0EE18F4B2@PeterOliTowPC> Message-ID: <39882067.21503.1460578455906.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Had anybody replaced the belt ( Flat belt) ? and any idea who sells correct size belt?kannan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Apr 14 12:21:50 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (s.parkin@sheffield.ac.uk via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:21:50 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] sorted Message-ID: <570F6F3E.9040605@sheffield.ac.uk> The problem CD player 1 error message displayed won't open CD drawer Cassette deck 1 plays for a few seconds then stops Linn Axis dead psu repairing it now a DIY job or bin according to everyone else After much searching I found someone in the UK who was able to fix the Linn on the day Wilkinsons Hifi Electronics Retail and Repair Shop Address: 92-94 Manchester Rd, Nelson, Lancashire BB9 7HD Phone:01282 612901 I asked if he would look at the Naks as well but the Linn was the priority ( I have a DR3 to keep me going) After an hour and a half drive my wife and I dropped them off at the opening time of 10 am. We went to spend some money at a well known Lancashire art glass blower. 12.45pm I got a text that the Linn and the Cassette Deck 1 were done! We arrived back at the shop at 4.20 pm all three fixed! The total cost £158.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a man! Steve Parkin -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Stephen Parkin Professional Services Medical Physics Group Department of Infection, Immunity & Cardiovascular Disease Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry & Health University of Sheffield Medical School Beech Hill Road Sheffield S10 2RX Tel: +44 (0) 114 271 3182 Fax: +44 (0) 114 271 1863 e-mail: s.parkin at sheffield.ac.uk www.sheffield.ac.uk/iicd Follow Us on Twitter @ShefUni_IICD Voted number one for student experience Times Higher Education Student Experience Survey 2014-2015 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Data Protection and Confidentiality: The information contained in this message or any appended documents may be privileged and confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). 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From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Apr 14 17:45:45 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ersted Bar via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 15:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] sorted References: <51088519.557195.1460648745051.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51088519.557195.1460648745051.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> This is Nakamichi!!!:D... -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 4/14/16, s.parkin at sheffield.ac.uk via Naktalk wrote: Subject: [naktalk] sorted To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Date: Thursday, April 14, 2016, 11:21 AM The problem  CD player 1  error message displayed  won't open CD drawer                          Cassette deck 1  plays for a few seconds then stops                          Linn Axis dead psu  repairing it now a DIY job or bin according to everyone else After much searching I found someone in the UK who was able to fix the Linn on the day Wilkinsons Hifi Electronics Retail and Repair Shop Address: 92-94 Manchester Rd, Nelson, Lancashire BB9 7HD Phone:01282 612901 I asked if he would look at the Naks as well but the Linn was the priority ( I have a DR3 to keep me going) After an hour and a half drive my wife and I dropped them off at the opening time of 10 am. We went to spend some money at a well known Lancashire art glass blower.  12.45pm I got a text that the Linn and the Cassette Deck 1 were done!  We arrived back at the shop at 4.20 pm all three fixed!  The total cost £158.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a man! Steve Parkin -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Stephen Parkin Professional Services Medical Physics Group Department of  Infection, Immunity & Cardiovascular Disease Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry & Health University of Sheffield Medical School Beech Hill Road Sheffield S10 2RX Tel: +44 (0) 114 271 3182 Fax: +44 (0) 114 271 1863 e-mail: s.parkin at sheffield.ac.uk www.sheffield.ac.uk/iicd Follow Us on Twitter @ShefUni_IICD   Voted number one for student experience Times Higher Education Student Experience Survey 2014-2015 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Data Protection and Confidentiality: The information contained in this message or any appended documents may be privileged and confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, any disclosure, reproduction, distribution, other dissemination or use of this message is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you receive this correspondence in error, please contact the sender immediately and permanently delete/destroy what you have received. ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Apr 15 13:14:19 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (richard bunch via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 07:14:19 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] download site is not working Message-ID: I am trying to download an LX3 service manual from http://download.naks.com/manuals/service/LX3_ServiceManual.pdf. The download site does not seem to work. Does anyone know of an alternate site or have an LX3 service manual? Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Apr 15 17:18:41 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (John Gipps via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 01:18:41 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk Digest, Vol 157, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001a01d1972a$1bfa3ca0$53eeb5e0$@aol.com> Hi Kannan The capstan belt for the Nakamichi 350 - part OCO3668A - same for 250, 500, 550, 600, 600II. I looked up my notes from all those years ago, and this belt was about the only one that I hadn't found a generic replacement for. A search on the net shows that Marrs sells a belt kit for the DT series (including capstan belt) for $36.75. Amazingly, I went to my parts collection, and I have five original OCO3668A. Clearly these are quite old, genuine spare parts supplied by Nakamichi Australia back in the 80s I would say. They look good - feel good when gently stretched. I'd be happy to use them myself, but haven't worked on a DT series deck for a very long time. I do have a few 550s, a 500, and at least one 600/600II to restore sometime - whether this will ever happen I'm not sure. So if you want to buy one of them, get in touch on my email address above. I would think that the Marrs alternative should be pretty good, and the belts a lot newer than mine, but possibly not identical to OCO3668A. Regards John Gipps 1. Nak 350 Belt ? (kannan srinivasaraghavan via Naktalk) 2. Nak 350 Belt ? (kannan srinivasaraghavan via Naktalk) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 20:14:15 +0000 (UTC) From: kannan srinivasaraghavan via Naktalk To: peteroli , "naktalk at lists.naks.com" , Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: [naktalk] Nak 350 Belt ? Message-ID: <39882067.21503.1460578455906.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Had anybody replaced the belt ( Flat belt) ? and any idea who sells correct size belt?kannan From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Apr 15 20:21:18 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Thomas R via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 14:21:18 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] download site is not working In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/nakamichi/lx-3.shtml Thomas. On Friday, April 15, 2016, richard bunch via Naktalk wrote: > I am trying to download an LX3 service manual from > http://download.naks.com/manuals/service/LX3_ServiceManual.pdf. The > download site does not seem to work. Does anyone know of an alternate site > or have an LX3 service manual? > > Rick > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I do not think the pinch rollers > are engaging the capstan spindles. > > The only reference that I can find in the Service Manual to the > pressure rollers suggests to insert a test tape and ensure the > pressure rollers are parallel to the capstan. If not, it just says to > replace the pressure roller assembly. > > I do not think this is my problem. I don't think the pressure rollers > are moving to pinch the tape to the capstans. > > Any suggestions regarding where to look next? > > > Rick > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Apr 18 13:21:42 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (richard bunch via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 07:21:42 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] pinch roller actuation on LX-3 In-Reply-To: <5714C172.1070306@mail.ru> References: <5714C172.1070306@mail.ru> Message-ID: Thank you, Yuri... Yes, after a little more experimentation, I figured out the lifting mechanism, and sure enough, the pressure roller arms are very stiff. I am now trying to figure out how much I can disassemble, clean and re-lube without needing to perform realignment. I am not sure I have the proper tools to get the realignment procedure done. I am re-reading the Service Manual this morning to try to determine where the best level of disassembly is. Rick On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Yuri Samsaev wrote: > Hi, Rick! > The common problem - is stuck pinch roller arm (roller assy), because dry > oil. Disconnect spring from the arm and check, is it move freely. > Regards. > Yuri. > > 17.04.2016 17:16, richard bunch via Naktalk пишет: > > I am bench testing an LX-3 cassette deck. I have the control panel > connected only by the electronics header so I can operate the basic > controls. I have remounted the tape mechanism assembly. I can get a tape > to fast forward and rewind. I cannot get the 'play' to function properly. > The capstan is spinning. I do not think the pinch rollers are engaging the > capstan spindles. > > The only reference that I can find in the Service Manual to the pressure > rollers suggests to insert a test tape and ensure the pressure rollers are > parallel to the capstan. If not, it just says to replace the pressure > roller assembly. > > I do not think this is my problem. I don't think the pressure rollers are > moving to pinch the tape to the capstans. > > Any suggestions regarding where to look next? > > > Rick > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Apr 19 09:58:31 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Emmanouil Komninos via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 10:58:31 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Block diagram for Nakamichi RX 505 Message-ID: <5715E527.8000507@otenet.gr> Hi to everybody in the forum! I am currently in the process of reviving a Nak 505 which is seriously ill. Does anybody have a block diagram for the deck? I noticed there is not one on the SM and i would very much appreciate if there is one available for sharing...If it exists of course! Thank you Manos From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Apr 21 17:51:27 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Kannan Srinivas via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 11:51:27 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk Digest, Vol 157, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <001a01d1972a$1bfa3ca0$53eeb5e0$@aol.com> References: <001a01d1972a$1bfa3ca0$53eeb5e0$@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi John I'm interested in buying the belt please send me the amount and mode - PayPal preferred to Kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com Thanks Kannan Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 15, 2016, at 11:18 AM, John Gipps via Naktalk wrote: > > Hi Kannan > > The capstan belt for the Nakamichi 350 - part OCO3668A - same for 250, 500, 550, 600, 600II. I looked up my notes from all those years ago, and this belt was about the only one that I hadn't found a generic replacement for. > > A search on the net shows that Marrs sells a belt kit for the DT series (including capstan belt) for $36.75. > > Amazingly, I went to my parts collection, and I have five original OCO3668A. Clearly these are quite old, genuine spare parts supplied by Nakamichi Australia back in the 80s I would say. They look good - feel good when gently stretched. I'd be happy to use them myself, but haven't worked on a DT series deck for a very long time. I do have a few 550s, a 500, and at least one 600/600II to restore sometime - whether this will ever happen I'm not sure. So if you want to buy one of them, get in touch on my email address above. I would think that the Marrs alternative should be pretty good, and the belts a lot newer than mine, but possibly not identical to OCO3668A. > > Regards > > John Gipps > > > > > 1. Nak 350 Belt ? (kannan srinivasaraghavan via Naktalk) > 2. Nak 350 Belt ? (kannan srinivasaraghavan via Naktalk) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 20:14:15 +0000 (UTC) > From: kannan srinivasaraghavan via Naktalk > To: peteroli , "naktalk at lists.naks.com" > , Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Subject: [naktalk] Nak 350 Belt ? > Message-ID: > <39882067.21503.1460578455906.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Had anybody replaced the belt ( Flat belt) ? and any idea who sells correct size belt?kannan > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Apr 22 09:54:10 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (David Thompson via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 17:54:10 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Nak 480 meter Message-ID: I have a 480 deck that is playing both channels but the right meter is not moving. Is there any obvious pointers on this please? David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Apr 30 19:06:50 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Peter Tanner via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:06:50 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 480 Message-ID: Hi everybody, I have a 480 which has been functioning very well up to this point. However while trying to change the play bulb something got shorted. Now when the power is activated the transport comes up immediately and the play light illuminates. The real motor stays idle. When the stop is activated the transport still stays engaged and the play light stays on. The capstan motor moves and stops when play and stop depressed respectively but the real motor does not move. It does though in fast forward and rewind. Pause works as well. I would appreciate any help on this Thanks in advance Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All earthing wires attached again? -- Best regards, Marco van Schoonhoven ----Origineel Bericht---- Van : naktalk at lists.naks.com Datum : 30/04/2016 19:06 Aan : naktalk at naks.com Onderwerp : [naktalk] 480 P { margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0; } Hi everybody, I have a 480 which has been functioning very well up to this point. However while trying to change the play bulb something got shorted. Now when the power is activated the transport comes up immediately and the play light illuminates. The real motor stays idle. When the stop is activated the transport still stays engaged and the play light stays on. The capstan motor moves and stops when play and stop depressed respectively but the real motor does not move. It does though in fast forward and rewind. Pause works as well. I would appreciate any help on this Thanks in advance Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Apr 30 20:29:24 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Marco van Schoonhoven via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 20:29:24 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [naktalk] 480 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <11764578.14080.1462040964621.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> Maybe explain how you tried (and succeeded?) to change the bulb since that is a near impossible job without taking the whole transport out. Did you took the control buttons out as well? That has a wire tree going through some holes in the chassis, you may have damaged the wires there... All earthing wires attached again? -- Best regards, Marco van Schoonhoven ----Origineel Bericht---- Van : naktalk at lists.naks.com Datum : 30/04/2016 19:06 Aan : naktalk at naks.com Onderwerp : [naktalk] 480 P { margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0; } Hi everybody, I have a 480 which has been functioning very well up to this point. However while trying to change the play bulb something got shorted. Now when the power is activated the transport comes up immediately and the play light illuminates. The real motor stays idle. When the stop is activated the transport still stays engaged and the play light stays on. The capstan motor moves and stops when play and stop depressed respectively but the real motor does not move. It does though in fast forward and rewind. Pause works as well. I would appreciate any help on this Thanks in advance Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2016\2016-August.txt.txt ************************************************************************ From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Aug 3 01:47:30 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Yuri Regelman via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 16:47:30 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon parts request Message-ID: I could not resist getting yet another Dragon from eBay. It was sold as is for parts or repair. It turned out to be a botched repair by whoever attempted to service it before. I managed to get almost everything straightened out, however the capstan bearings are shot and my attempts to restore them did not help. Capstans stop spinning in less than 3 seconds after power off when the deck is in normal position with the flywheel weight loading the bearing. When the deck is sitting on it's tail (or front) the capstans spin down in 5-6 seconds, so it is not the case of insufficient end-play or rubbing against the bearing housing or coils. Does anyone by chance have a set of Dragon capstan bearings they are willing to sell from a parts unit? This deck is a later serial number with a larger right hand side capstan than on the earlier production units. I would really like to bring this beast back to life and would hate to scrap it for parts. Please Help! :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I managed to get almost everything > straightened out, however the capstan bearings are shot and my attempts to > restore them did not help. Capstans stop spinning in less than 3 seconds > after power off when the deck is in normal position with the flywheel > weight loading the bearing. When the deck is sitting on it's tail (or > front) the capstans spin down in 5-6 seconds, so it is not the case of > insufficient end-play or rubbing against the bearing housing or coils. > Does anyone by chance have a set of Dragon capstan bearings they are > willing to sell from a parts unit? This deck is a later serial number with > a larger right hand side capstan than on the earlier production units. I > would really like to bring this beast back to life and would hate to scrap > it for parts. > Please Help! :) > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Aug 16 08:17:59 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Gerhard Wartha via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 08:17:59 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] 680zx transformer In-Reply-To: <191362002.16910429.1471290721220.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <191362002.16910429.1471290721220.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <191362002.16910429.1471290721220.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <595FB7E0-6BB0-47A9-B7BA-D2EB19BBEDDA@gmail.com> On Ebay . com in this moment. There you find a 670zx transformer and one CR-7 transformer. 670 and 680 must be very close or same in wattage . Take care to buy for 100/ 117 Volt or 220/240 Volt or world wide transformers for both. gerhard Am 15.08.2016 um 21:52 schrieb Vesselin Uzunov via Naktalk: > Hi Naktalkers, > the primary side of my Nakamichi 680zx is burned out. 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SR-3A receiver: - Cosmetically very good - One knob was loose and glued back in wrong position so now pointer does not point at the correct source.arggghhh. - Overheats so I have a small fan connected to its switched outlet and pointed to the top heat vents - Loses AM/FM station memory so I soldered in a battery holder - AM/FM tuner controls have locked up so cannot work the tuner now - all other functions work CD-4 player: - Cosmetically excellent - Includes manual and remote (rare) - Has trouble starting.intermittent operation. Not sure if bad laser or loose connection. Mostly has not worked in some time. Laser will read the disc when inserted giving the number of tracks and total disc time, but will not play when pressed. Obviously, both are projects for someone or to be as parts. Private message me if you are interested. I have not thought about pricing but would be really cheap given their non-working condition. Plus shipping from Arizona. 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I have to press it for three to four times. 03.      The tape of cassette  frequentlygets stuck up inside the deck. 04.      The deck comes to stop position frequently on its own.05.      Many times, head rail does not lift upafter I issue a stop command and therefore I am not able to eject the cassette.                        I opened the deck and cleaned theleaf switches with turpentine and removed the jammed cassette by rotating the flywheelin reverse. After that,to my surprise, all of the switches gone dead. The deckdoes not respond to any of switches.   I amnot a technician and expecting home remedies for these issues.   Regards,   VijayBagaria -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Dec 1 13:48:03 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (ashvin srivastava via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 06:48:03 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] nakamichi cr 5 In-Reply-To: <20465274.4543298.1480595526087@mail.yahoo.com> References: <20465274.4543298.1480595526087.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <20465274.4543298.1480595526087@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <247617B2-0AEA-489A-86A4-48B35DCE8445@gmail.com> Vijay Consider switching to an iPod ...... 🤓 > On Dec 1, 2016, at 6:32 AM, Vijay Bagaria via Naktalk wrote: > > Hi all nak lovers, > I AM VIJAY BAGARIA, FROM MUMBAI, INDIA. > > I am using Nakamichi CR-5 CASSETTE DECK. > I had following problems with this deck : > > 01. Switches were malfunctioning. > 02. My playback switches don’t respond immediately. I have to press it for three to four times. > 03. The tape of cassette frequently gets stuck up inside the deck. > 04. The deck comes to stop position frequently on its own. > 05. Many times, head rail does not lift up after I issue a stop command and therefore I am not able to eject the cassette. > > I opened the deck and cleaned the leaf switches with turpentine and removed the jammed cassette by rotating the flywheel in reverse. > After that, to my surprise, all of the switches gone dead. > The deck does not respond to any of switches. > > I am not a technician and expecting home remedies for these issues. > > Regards, > > Vijay Bagaria > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Wish you luck, Regards Ad Op 1 dec. 2016, om 13:32 heeft Vijay Bagaria via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: > Hi all nak lovers, > I AM VIJAY BAGARIA, FROM MUMBAI, INDIA. > > I am using Nakamichi CR-5 CASSETTE DECK. > I had following problems with this deck : > > 01. Switches were malfunctioning. > 02. My playback switches don’t respond immediately. I have to press it for three to four times. > 03. The tape of cassette frequently gets stuck up inside the deck. > 04. The deck comes to stop position frequently on its own. > 05. Many times, head rail does not lift up after I issue a stop command and therefore I am not able to eject the cassette. > > I opened the deck and cleaned the leaf switches with turpentine and removed the jammed cassette by rotating the flywheel in reverse. > After that, to my surprise, all of the switches gone dead. > The deck does not respond to any of switches. > > I am not a technician and expecting home remedies for these issues. > > Regards, > > Vijay Bagaria > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Dec 1 14:45:44 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Norman van Wijnen via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 14:45:44 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] nakamichi cr 5 In-Reply-To: <58587B98-C1E1-48E5-BF58-DBD0A2EEDDC9@gmail.com> References: <20465274.4543298.1480595526087.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <20465274.4543298.1480595526087@mail.yahoo.com> <58587B98-C1E1-48E5-BF58-DBD0A2EEDDC9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <31F902B2-A22D-424A-A559-C80B4A7B825D@gmail.com> Hi, I think you need a new reel motor, cleaning the switches of the transport again with pure alcohol, pushing three times on one switch , mostly new switches needed inside the keyboard. Best regards, Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 1 dec. 2016 om 14:04 heeft Ad Bos via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: > > Hi vijay, > > That was the worst decision to make.!! 'turpentine' is in fact a very light oily substance. I would recommend to clean them again using alcohol instead. > Hoping it will work after that.. I do not know about your CR-5 anymore but mostly cleaning and checking lubrication on places that do need oil is the way to go here. > > Wish you luck, > Regards > Ad > >> Op 1 dec. 2016, om 13:32 heeft Vijay Bagaria via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: >> >> Hi all nak lovers, >> I AM VIJAY BAGARIA, FROM MUMBAI, INDIA. >> >> I am using Nakamichi CR-5 CASSETTE DECK. >> I had following problems with this deck : >> >> 01. Switches were malfunctioning. >> 02. My playback switches don’t respond immediately. I have to press it for three to four times. >> 03. The tape of cassette frequently gets stuck up inside the deck. >> 04. The deck comes to stop position frequently on its own. >> 05. Many times, head rail does not lift up after I issue a stop command and therefore I am not able to eject the cassette. >> >> I opened the deck and cleaned the leaf switches with turpentine and removed the jammed cassette by rotating the flywheel in reverse. >> After that, to my surprise, all of the switches gone dead. >> The deck does not respond to any of switches. >> >> I am not a technician and expecting home remedies for these issues. >> >> Regards, >> >> Vijay Bagaria >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Also the rubber capstan belt might be worn out that drive the double capstan shafts resulting in same symptoms as mentioned above in play mode. 2 there is a small electric motor that drives a white plastic gear with cams that in turn raises the tape transport and operate the leaf switches this motor can develop sweet spots if the lubrication inside has dried or the armature contact inside has become dirty causing erratic operation a good quality electronic aerosol spray containing fine lubrication and sprayed in the leaf switches and in the front bearing of this motor will probably make it work correctly again, regarding tape stopping frequently it can be because that rubber idler wheel located in the middle of the two reel spools and a small rubber belt for counter has worn out and need replacement, the rubber idlers driven by a small electric comes in contact with the reel spools in play, fwd and rwd modes if it worn it will not move the tape spoils causing the tape sensor to activate stop to protect the tape. If you are technically inclined I would suggest downloading the service manual for free from hi fi engine.com by first registering with them they have service manuals for almost every model of nakamichi cassette decks. Another recommendation would be to send it the respected nakamichi expert Willy Herman in California, Usa if you want it serviced correctly, hope this helps you , best regards! Sikander Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 1, 2016, at 8:04 AM, Ad Bos via Naktalk wrote: > > Hi vijay, > > That was the worst decision to make.!! 'turpentine' is in fact a very light oily substance. I would recommend to clean them again using alcohol instead. > Hoping it will work after that.. I do not know about your CR-5 anymore but mostly cleaning and checking lubrication on places that do need oil is the way to go here. > > Wish you luck, > Regards > Ad > >> Op 1 dec. 2016, om 13:32 heeft Vijay Bagaria via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: >> >> Hi all nak lovers, >> I AM VIJAY BAGARIA, FROM MUMBAI, INDIA. >> >> I am using Nakamichi CR-5 CASSETTE DECK. >> I had following problems with this deck : >> >> 01. Switches were malfunctioning. >> 02. My playback switches don’t respond immediately. I have to press it for three to four times. >> 03. The tape of cassette frequently gets stuck up inside the deck. >> 04. The deck comes to stop position frequently on its own. >> 05. Many times, head rail does not lift up after I issue a stop command and therefore I am not able to eject the cassette. >> >> I opened the deck and cleaned the leaf switches with turpentine and removed the jammed cassette by rotating the flywheel in reverse. >> After that, to my surprise, all of the switches gone dead. >> The deck does not respond to any of switches. >> >> I am not a technician and expecting home remedies for these issues. >> >> Regards, >> >> Vijay Bagaria >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ingemar -------- Originalmeddelande --------Från: Ad Bos via Naktalk Datum: 2016-12-01 14:04 (GMT+01:00) Till: Vijay Bagaria , Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Rubrik: Re: [naktalk] nakamichi cr 5 Hi vijay, That was the worst decision to make.!! 'turpentine' is in fact a very light oily substance. I would recommend to clean them again using alcohol instead.Hoping it will work after that.. I do not know about your CR-5 anymore but mostly cleaning and checking lubrication on places that do need oil is the way to go here. Wish you luck,RegardsAd Op 1 dec. 2016, om 13:32 heeft Vijay Bagaria via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: Hi all nak lovers, I AM VIJAY BAGARIA, FROM MUMBAI, INDIA. I am using Nakamichi CR-5 CASSETTE DECK.I had following problems with this deck : 01.      Switches were malfunctioning.02.      My playback switches don’t respond immediately. I have to press it for three to four times.03.      The tape of cassette  frequently gets stuck up inside the deck.04.      The deck comes to stop position frequently on its own.05.      Many times, head rail does not lift up after I issue a stop command and therefore I am not able to eject the cassette.                        I opened the deck and cleaned the leaf switches with turpentine and removed the jammed cassette by rotating the flywheel in reverse.After that, to my surprise, all of the switches gone dead.The deck does not respond to any of switches. I am not a technician and expecting home remedies for these issues. Regards,  Vijay Bagaria========---------------------------------------------------------=========          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Dec 2 13:35:38 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 12:35:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] CR-5 Message-ID: <1598218035.81948462.1480682138091.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Dec 2 17:27:39 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ingemar Lindqvist via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 17:27:39 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] CR-5 In-Reply-To: <1598218035.81948462.1480682138091.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <1598218035.81948462.1480682138091.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: Yes, I have also experienced how plastic parts gets attacked by turpentine and white spirit which can make plastics dissolved in small grains, as if it turned into sand, plastic granules. Not all plastic kinds are affected in that way, but I got for example screwdrivers handles completely destroyed. Next day after cleaning, they looked as if they had received a myriad of cracks in the material, and cracked when just lightly using the screwdriver. A strange penomenon. Let's hope that the "Nakamichi plastic" is of a better kind, not affected in this way. Ingemar Lindqvist from Sweden 2016-12-02 13:35 GMT+01:00 via Naktalk : > Unfortunately there is no home remedy or simple average non technician fix > for all the issues your deck has. They are all repairable by a qualified > tech with access to spare parts. It is unrealistic to hope that a 30 year > old electromechanical piece of equipment like that would only need cleaning > or a simple repair to operate properly for any extended period. Also, > turpentine an aggressive solvent, so if any got on any plastic components, > it would start to dissolve the plastic almost immediately, and could render > the deck useless without parts replacement. > > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Dec 3 04:59:21 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (compudude via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 19:59:21 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon damaged during shipment Message-ID: Hi, I have received a Dragon deck by fedex which was packed in a virtually indestructable box. I also instructed the seller to pack the cassette door seperately, as it may be pushed-in during transportation. I know this because it happened years ago when I received a Dragon deck with broken mechanism. At that time I thought the door was pushed in. I also talked with naktalk member Ti Kan some time ago, who told me a similar story. Now, the deck arrived again with busted mechanism although the front door was removed and covered nicely with a piece of cardboard! There are two options: 1) The mechanism is already under stress (which you can feel trying to push the broken sides together,) and due to aging of plastic material it snaps off when the box gets thrown around during shipment. 2) There are psychopaths at shipping companies who enjoy damaging Dragon decks:) I wonder how many people had the same issue? Is this a common problem or is it just my luck?? Thanks, _Fuad From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Dec 3 11:06:27 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ali Hingoro via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 05:06:27 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon damaged during shipment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If it was packed well you should not have received it with any damage to the door file a claim with the shipping company if it was insured, there should have been lots of packing material in the front of the door and in a large and heavy duty double walked box I agree the shippers can mishandle packages and they do it all the time that is the reason the box should have been large sturdy with lot of quality packing line i in thick white foam panel on all sides and packing peanuts filling the space between the deck and the box the deck itself pack In thick flexible packing material the kind that is used to pack China dishes, I shipped dragons successfully so I know it's not a common problem, thanks, sikander Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 2, 2016, at 10:59 PM, compudude via Naktalk wrote: > > Hi, > > I have received a Dragon deck by fedex which was packed in a virtually indestructable box. I also instructed the seller to pack the cassette door seperately, as it may be pushed-in during transportation. I know this because it happened years ago when I received a Dragon deck with broken mechanism. At that time I thought the door was pushed in. I also talked with naktalk member Ti Kan some time ago, who told me a similar story. > > Now, the deck arrived again with busted mechanism although the front door was removed and covered nicely with a piece of cardboard! There are two options: > > 1) The mechanism is already under stress (which you can feel trying to push the broken sides together,) and due to aging of plastic material it snaps off when the box gets thrown around during shipment. > > 2) There are psychopaths at shipping companies who enjoy damaging Dragon decks:) > > I wonder how many people had the same issue? Is this a common problem or is it just my luck?? > > Thanks, > > _Fuad > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Dec 3 11:09:29 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ali Hingoro via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 05:09:29 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon damaged during shipment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9BE4318C-A7F4-4891-ABC4-63DA8EF69E8D@gmail.com> FAUD, file a claim with fedex ground if it was insured fedex can get items damaged but the front of the tape door protected with just cardboard?!! Come on!!! No way it was packed correctly!! Read my other message! Sikander Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 2, 2016, at 10:59 PM, compudude via Naktalk wrote: > > Hi, > > I have received a Dragon deck by fedex which was packed in a virtually indestructable box. I also instructed the seller to pack the cassette door seperately, as it may be pushed-in during transportation. I know this because it happened years ago when I received a Dragon deck with broken mechanism. At that time I thought the door was pushed in. I also talked with naktalk member Ti Kan some time ago, who told me a similar story. > > Now, the deck arrived again with busted mechanism although the front door was removed and covered nicely with a piece of cardboard! There are two options: > > 1) The mechanism is already under stress (which you can feel trying to push the broken sides together,) and due to aging of plastic material it snaps off when the box gets thrown around during shipment. > > 2) There are psychopaths at shipping companies who enjoy damaging Dragon decks:) > > I wonder how many people had the same issue? Is this a common problem or is it just my luck?? > > Thanks, > > _Fuad > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Dec 3 13:23:34 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ingemar Lindqvist via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 13:23:34 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon damaged during shipment Message-ID: <9rts5pju5q8ja0t7d72mmor4.1480767814155@email.android.com> I bought a Danish beautiful TO-R 15 U electronic tube FM receiver from 1963 through an auction. It was very well packed, but anyhow the wooden case of the apparatus was destroyed when I received it. I complained at the Swedish shipment company and without questions they payed me the whole auction amount and the cost for the shipment. There was no insurance but on the package it was labeled GLASS everywhere. Ingemar Lindqvist in Sweden -------- Originalmeddelande --------Från: Ali Hingoro via Naktalk Datum: 2016-12-03 11:06 (GMT+01:00) Till: compudude <75541.100 at compuserve.com>, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Rubrik: Re: [naktalk] Dragon damaged during shipment If it was packed well you should not have received  it with any damage to the door file a claim with the shipping company if it was insured, there should have been lots of packing material in the front of the door and in a large and heavy duty double walked box I agree the shippers can mishandle packages and they do it all the time that is the reason the box should have been large sturdy with lot of quality packing line i in thick white foam panel on all sides  and packing peanuts filling the space between the deck and the box the deck itself pack In thick flexible packing material the kind that is used to pack China dishes, I shipped dragons successfully so I know it's not a common problem, thanks, sikander Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 2, 2016, at 10:59 PM, compudude via Naktalk wrote: > > Hi, > > I have received a Dragon deck by fedex which was packed in a virtually indestructable box. I also instructed the seller to pack the cassette door seperately, as it may be pushed-in during transportation. I know this because it happened years ago when I received a Dragon deck with broken mechanism. At that time I thought the door was pushed in. I also talked with naktalk member Ti Kan some time ago, who told me a similar story. > > Now, the deck arrived again with busted mechanism although the front door was removed and covered nicely with a piece of cardboard! There are two options: > > 1) The mechanism is already under stress (which you can feel trying to push the broken sides together,) and due to aging of plastic material it snaps off when the box gets thrown around during shipment. > > 2) There are psychopaths at shipping companies who enjoy damaging Dragon decks:) > > I wonder how many people had the same issue? 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Dec 3 14:54:41 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (shanti ramachandran via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 13:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Dragon damaged during shipment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <955068946.6993071.1480773281495@mail.yahoo.com> Inadequate packing can do this Ali. Best is to completely wrap the Dragon in 1 inch bubble wrap and do a double layer for the front panel. Then drop that in a tight fitting box and then that entire box into another well fitting box( use thermocol sheets to make it fit tight) and then ship it.  I have had success with  this method even shipping ZXLs across the country.  BTW, Ali,  I have finally restored the 1000ZXL you sold me back in 2013. Remember? Ram. On Saturday, December 3, 2016 6:24 AM, Ali Hingoro via Naktalk wrote: If it was packed well you should not have received  it with any damage to the door file a claim with the shipping company if it was insured, there should have been lots of packing material in the front of the door and in a large and heavy duty double walked box I agree the shippers can mishandle packages and they do it all the time that is the reason the box should have been large sturdy with lot of quality packing line i in thick white foam panel on all sides  and packing peanuts filling the space between the deck and the box the deck itself pack In thick flexible packing material the kind that is used to pack China dishes, I shipped dragons successfully so I know it's not a common problem, thanks, sikander Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 2, 2016, at 10:59 PM, compudude via Naktalk wrote: > > Hi, > > I have received a Dragon deck by fedex which was packed in a virtually indestructable box. I also instructed the seller to pack the cassette door seperately, as it may be pushed-in during transportation. I know this because it happened years ago when I received a Dragon deck with broken mechanism. At that time I thought the door was pushed in. I also talked with naktalk member Ti Kan some time ago, who told me a similar story. > > Now, the deck arrived again with busted mechanism although the front door was removed and covered nicely with a piece of cardboard! There are two options: > > 1) The mechanism is already under stress (which you can feel trying to push the broken sides together,) and due to aging of plastic material it snaps off when the box gets thrown around during shipment. > > 2) There are psychopaths at shipping companies who enjoy damaging Dragon decks:) > > I wonder how many people had the same issue? 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Dec 3 17:11:36 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 16:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 730 Message-ID: <1749752403.83081002.1480781496222.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Dec 3 17:31:08 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 16:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Dragon damage in shipment Message-ID: <2077255185.83092953.1480782668955.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Dec 3 17:36:44 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ingemar Lindqvist via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 17:36:44 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 730 Message-ID: <74issq9a5pc0yy2ita4w7kcv.1480783004401@email.android.com> It is not likely that this problem comes from any defect on the volume pot. at least not if the error goes the same on both channels. It has to do with the connection from the two (left+right) channels of the volume pot to the signal grounding. By some error, this connection must be missing. If so, the result will be that one can't lower the volume enough. It will still be a rather loud volume even if the control is turned at its lowest point. It can not be silenced. Ingemar -------- Originalmeddelande --------Från: via Naktalk Datum: 2016-12-03 17:11 (GMT+01:00) Till: naktalk at lists.naks.com Rubrik: [naktalk] Nakamichi 730 I own two 730 receivers and they both have that same problem/idiosyncrasy. It is annoying. I use the loudness slide to temper the issue.  It is the linearity of the volume pot itself. I have been looking for a replacement myself that provides more range resolution. Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Dec 4 09:00:52 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Gerhard Wartha via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 09:00:52 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon shiping existent Message-ID: <119FAB30-3212-4BAA-B713-3FFC594363BD@gmail.com> The broken nylon Stud on the tape transport can be fixed by metric srew inside this nilon holders. Please see the attached Service information. If You need to replace the Azimuth cable, I have one . If you sell this Dragon in parts I would like to buy the Cassette door. This existent was happen to Naks even in the 1980ies. Thats way I did find a Dragon from that time. without any use since new in 1985 , looking as new. broken Stud of Mechanism Ass´y only. Gerhard Vienna -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: NR-0052.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 83591 bytes Desc: not available URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Dec 4 14:27:56 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Richard L. Hess via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 08:27:56 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon shiping existent In-Reply-To: <119FAB30-3212-4BAA-B713-3FFC594363BD@gmail.com> References: <119FAB30-3212-4BAA-B713-3FFC594363BD@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks, Gerhard, that is most interesting as I have seven Dragons and I suspect at some point I might need to know that. Cheers, Richard On 12/4/2016 03:00, Gerhard Wartha via Naktalk wrote: > > The broken nylon Stud on the tape transport can be fixed by > metric srew inside this nilon holders. > > -- Richard L. Hess email: richard at richardhess.com Aurora, Ontario, Canada http://www.richardhess.com/ http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Dec 4 18:13:41 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?b?Sm95LUVsbCAmIFJhaW5lcg==?= via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2016 11:13:41 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon damaged during shipment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20161204111341.sql8k9q2feos44kk@webmail.sasktel.net> If you do decide to part it out I might be interested in the heads.   Cheers, Rainer On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 19:59:21 -0800, compudude via Naktalk wrote: Hi, I have received a Dragon deck by fedex which was packed in a virtually indestructable box. I also instructed the seller to pack the cassette door seperately, as it may be pushed-in during transportation. I know this because it happened years ago when I received a Dragon deck with broken mechanism. At that time I thought the door was pushed in. I also talked with naktalk member Ti Kan some time ago, who told me a similar story. Now, the deck arrived again with busted mechanism although the front door was removed and covered nicely with a piece of cardboard! There are two options: 1) The mechanism is already under stress (which you can feel trying to push the broken sides together,) and due to aging of plastic material it snaps off when the box gets thrown around during shipment. 2) There are psychopaths at shipping companies who enjoy damaging Dragon decks:) I wonder how many people had the same issue? Is this a common problem or is it just my luck?? Thanks, _Fuad ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tim Sepper timpamsepper at cox dot net Fellow Enthusiasts, I have a workshop system that has stopped working and will be putting them up for sale on ebay soon. Thought I would give my fellow Nakamichi enthusiasts a first shot if anyone is interested. SR-3A receiver: - Cosmetically very good - One knob was loose and glued back in wrong position so now pointer does not point at the correct source.arggghhh. - Overheats so I have a small fan connected to its switched outlet and pointed to the top heat vents - Loses AM/FM station memory so I soldered in a battery holder - AM/FM tuner controls have locked up so cannot work the tuner now - all other functions work CD-4 player: - Cosmetically excellent - Includes manual and remote (rare) - Has trouble starting.intermittent operation. Not sure if bad laser or loose connection. Mostly has not worked in some time. Laser will read the disc when inserted giving the number of tracks and total disc time, but will not play when pressed. Obviously, both are projects for someone or to be as parts. Private message me if you are interested. I have not thought about pricing but would be really cheap given their non-working condition. Plus shipping from Arizona. Tim Sepper timpamsepper at cox dot net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Dec 4 22:51:05 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (compudude via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 13:51:05 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon damage in shipment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Gerhard and others who replied earlier, This actually seems to be a common issue. I just found out about Willy Hermanns instructions about how to fix it: http://www.vintagecassette.com/naksarticle.jsp?article=93168 The sstrange thing in my case is the deck was packed in a bulletproof box, and the front cover was removed, so that it cannot be pushed-in. Somehow the mounting posts still managed to snap-off, exactly the same way described in Willy's post. Thanks _Fuad On 12/4/2016 3:00 AM, via Naktalk wrote: > The broken nylon Stud on the tape transport can be fixed by > metric srew inside this nilon holders. > > Please see the attached Service information. > > > If You need to replace the Azimuth cable, I have one . > > If you sell this Dragon in parts I would like to buy the Cassette > door. > > This existent was happen to Naks even in the 1980ies. > Thats way I did find a Dragon from that time. > > without any use since new in 1985 , looking as new. broken Stud of > Mechanism Ass´y only. > > Gerhard Vienna > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: NR-0052.pdf > Type: application/pdf > Size: 83591 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Dec 4 23:27:39 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ti Kan via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 14:27:39 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon damage in shipment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fuad, In your case, the mounts aren't broken by being "pushed in" via the cassette door. I think the box was probably dropped pretty hard. The momentum and shock was enough to break the mounts, which in my opinion are a weak point. Nakamichi should have used metal mounts rather than plastic. Hope you get this sorted out soon and to your satisfaction. -Ti -- Sent from my commlock > On Dec 4, 2016, at 1:51 PM, compudude via Naktalk wrote: > > Hi Gerhard and others who replied earlier, > > This actually seems to be a common issue. I just found out about Willy Hermanns instructions about how to fix it: http://www.vintagecassette.com/naksarticle.jsp?article=93168 > > The sstrange thing in my case is the deck was packed in a bulletproof box, and the front cover was removed, so that it cannot be pushed-in. Somehow the mounting posts still managed to snap-off, exactly the same way described in Willy's post. > > Thanks > > _Fuad > > >> On 12/4/2016 3:00 AM, via Naktalk wrote: >> The broken nylon Stud on the tape transport can be fixed by >> metric srew inside this nilon holders. >> >> Please see the attached Service information. >> >> >> If You need to replace the Azimuth cable, I have one . >> >> If you sell this Dragon in parts I would like to buy the Cassette >> door. >> >> This existent was happen to Naks even in the 1980ies. >> Thats way I did find a Dragon from that time. >> >> without any use since new in 1985 , looking as new. broken Stud of >> Mechanism Ass´y only. >> >> Gerhard Vienna >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: NR-0052.pdf >> Type: application/pdf >> Size: 83591 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Dec 11 15:27:58 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (bb via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 15:27:58 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Sankyo DD (A2OLL57) inside a DR-1 Message-ID: <584D626E.30901@gmail.com> Dear Naktalkers, I want to put into a DR-1 the DD (from a BX-300) in replacement of the belt-driven two capstan in place The swap seems to be quite easy except (for me) with the pin 3 of CN-4 on BX-300E which is labeleld Power-off On the DR-1, the very same pin 3 is labelled "CAPS M" and goes to the minus pole of the motor and is the same than the black (GND) line of the transport (for instance on the cam leaves or the DD PCB itself). How can I handle this ? Thanks for help Bernard From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Dec 11 16:00:54 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?Q?P=C3=A4r_Eriksson?= via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 16:00:54 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Sankyo DD (A2OLL57) inside a DR-1 In-Reply-To: <584D626E.30901@gmail.com> References: <584D626E.30901@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Bernard, I have the same plan for a Cassette Deck 1. I have spotted a problem though, the circuit board for the playback amp. Originally its fasten to the same metal plate that holds the capstan motor. Since this part is replaced with the DD motor assy there is nowhere to mount the circuit board. Do you have any ideas? Regards Pelle. -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- From: bb via Naktalk Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 3:27 PM To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: [naktalk] Sankyo DD (A2OLL57) inside a DR-1 Dear Naktalkers, I want to put into a DR-1 the DD (from a BX-300) in replacement of the belt-driven two capstan in place The swap seems to be quite easy except (for me) with the pin 3 of CN-4 on BX-300E which is labeleld Power-off On the DR-1, the very same pin 3 is labelled "CAPS M" and goes to the minus pole of the motor and is the same than the black (GND) line of the transport (for instance on the cam leaves or the DD PCB itself). How can I handle this ? Thanks for help Bernard ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Dec 11 17:03:11 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (bb via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 17:03:11 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Sankyo DD (A2OLL57) inside a DR-1 In-Reply-To: References: <584D626E.30901@gmail.com> Message-ID: <584D78BF.9000001@gmail.com> Hi Pelle, I think (but did not check it yet) that some space should still remain once the DD PCB inside, behind the latter. If so, we just have to build some kind of aluminium spacers as well as arms screwed on the three screws that hold the DD PCB and on which would come the PB Amp PCB; Actually, we would have two PCB behind the transport skeleton itself. If not enough space because of the main PCB too close, we have to design the aluminium arms in order to shift a little bit upwards the second (PB amp) PCB. But in this case, may be the PB-head wires will be too short ! If it is feasible from the electronic point of view, I think we can find a way and I will check this possible mechanical problem by removing the complete DR-1 transport and put inside an original BX-300 one and see how we can handle it. Cheers Bernard P.S: on the attached picture, we can see that the PB-head wires should be long enough... even to locate the locate the PB-amp PCB on the side if necessary. Pär Eriksson a écrit : > Hi Bernard, > > I have the same plan for a Cassette Deck 1. I have spotted a problem > though, the circuit board > for the playback amp. Originally its fasten to the same metal plate > that holds the capstan motor. > Since this part is replaced with the DD motor assy there is nowhere to > mount the circuit board. > Do you have any ideas? > > Regards Pelle. > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- From: bb via Naktalk > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 3:27 PM > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: [naktalk] Sankyo DD (A2OLL57) inside a DR-1 > > Dear Naktalkers, > > I want to put into a DR-1 the DD (from a BX-300) in replacement of the > belt-driven two capstan in place > > The swap seems to be quite easy except (for me) with the pin 3 of CN-4 > on BX-300E which is labeleld Power-off > > On the DR-1, the very same pin 3 is labelled "CAPS M" and goes to the > minus pole of the motor and is the same than the black (GND) line of the > transport (for instance on the cam leaves or the DD PCB itself). > > How can I handle this ? > > Thanks for help > Bernard > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: > http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You will find attached a picture on which the two transports (DD on top) were at the very same vertical line (here, you have to believe me): I think we will have just enough space. Bernard bb a écrit : > Hi Pelle, > > I think (but did not check it yet) that some space should still remain > once the DD PCB inside, behind the latter. > > If so, we just have to build some kind of aluminium spacers as well > as arms screwed on the three screws that hold the DD PCB and on which > would come the PB Amp PCB; > > Actually, we would have two PCB behind the transport skeleton itself. > > If not enough space because of the main PCB too close, we have to > design the aluminium arms in order to shift a little bit upwards the > second (PB amp) PCB. But in this case, may be the PB-head wires will > be too short ! > > If it is feasible from the electronic point of view, I think we can > find a way and I will check this possible mechanical problem by > removing the complete DR-1 transport and put inside an original BX-300 > one and see how we can handle it. > > Cheers > Bernard > > P.S: on the attached picture, we can see that the PB-head wires should > be long enough... even to locate the locate the PB-amp PCB on the side > if necessary. > > Pär Eriksson a écrit : >> Hi Bernard, >> >> I have the same plan for a Cassette Deck 1. I have spotted a problem >> though, the circuit board >> for the playback amp. Originally its fasten to the same metal plate >> that holds the capstan motor. >> Since this part is replaced with the DD motor assy there is nowhere >> to mount the circuit board. >> Do you have any ideas? >> >> Regards Pelle. >> >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- From: bb via Naktalk >> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 3:27 PM >> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >> Subject: [naktalk] Sankyo DD (A2OLL57) inside a DR-1 >> >> Dear Naktalkers, >> >> I want to put into a DR-1 the DD (from a BX-300) in replacement of the >> belt-driven two capstan in place >> >> The swap seems to be quite easy except (for me) with the pin 3 of CN-4 >> on BX-300E which is labeleld Power-off >> >> On the DR-1, the very same pin 3 is labelled "CAPS M" and goes to the >> minus pole of the motor and is the same than the black (GND) line of the >> transport (for instance on the cam leaves or the DD PCB itself). >> >> How can I handle this ? >> >> Thanks for help >> Bernard >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: >> http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Or maybe Fred is reading these lines: if so, I would really appreciate having a answer. Thanks for all Best Regards Bernard From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Dec 18 17:30:04 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?b?Sm95LUVsbCAmIFJhaW5lcg==?= via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 10:30:04 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] No answer from Fred (Marrs Communication) In-Reply-To: <585659EE.2080109@gmail.com> References: <585659EE.2080109@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20161218103004.8l5l2zhskc4cc00c@webmail.sasktel.net> If you check on the Tapeheads forum, Fred has laid out a certain procedure to follow with a seperate E-mail account for anyone that has an issue. If you don't follow his procedure exactly he will ignore your E-mails.   On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 10:42:06 +0100, bb via Naktalk wrote: Dear Naktalkers, I am sorry to write to the list for a "side" problem. Indeed, on November 9, after having ordered 6 kits and 5 big tires, I have received the package three weeks later. So that was fine as Fred had told me that he had to move in a new house because of floods Unfortunately, the 3 kits for 600II did not have the correct reel tires (the diameter was much larger than that in a previous kit I received a year before for 550 which has the same transport) Additionally, Fred forgot to include the 5 tires. After three different mails to him, I never received any answer so far. I was wondering if someone has some news from Fred ? Or maybe Fred is reading these lines: if so, I would really appreciate having a answer. Thanks for all Best Regards Bernard ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you don't follow his procedure exactly he will ignore > your E-mails. > > On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 10:42:06 +0100, bb via Naktalk > wrote: > >> Dear Naktalkers, >> >> I am sorry to write to the list for a "side" problem. >> >> Indeed, on November 9, after having ordered 6 kits and 5 big tires, >> I >> have received the package three weeks later. So that was fine as >> Fred >> had told me that he had to move in a new house because of floods >> >> Unfortunately, the 3 kits for 600II did not have the correct reel >> tires >> (the diameter was much larger than that in a previous kit I received >> a >> year before for 550 which has the same transport) >> Additionally, Fred forgot to include the 5 tires. >> >> After three different mails to him, I never received any answer so >> far. >> I was wondering if someone has some news from Fred ? >> >> Or maybe Fred is reading these lines: if so, I would really >> appreciate >> having a answer. >> >> Thanks for all >> Best Regards >> Bernard >> From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Dec 18 18:07:16 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?b?Sm95LUVsbCAmIFJhaW5lcg==?= via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 11:07:16 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] No answer from Fred (Marrs Communication) In-Reply-To: <6b962ded1bf4c659ac43933cadc9b7f1@xs4all.nl> References: <585659EE.2080109@gmail.com> <20161218103004.8l5l2zhskc4cc00c@webmail.sasktel.net> <6b962ded1bf4c659ac43933cadc9b7f1@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20161218110716.84zfkcgjk48ggc0w@webmail.sasktel.net> Yes, I know Wouter, you are exactly right. Really frustrating for a lot of people, especially those who know the "history" On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 17:45:19 +0100, Wouter Heijke via Naktalk wrote: So there is a different treatment depending on how you approach him, is not like you are a customer and get treated well always? Nice to know, he got it premium stuff started thanks to naktalk.... Some people... On 2016-12-18 05:30 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: > p{margin: 0;padding: 0;} > > If you check on the Tapeheads forum, Fred has laid out a certain > procedure to follow with a seperate E-mail account for anyone that has > an issue. If you don't follow his procedure exactly he will ignore > your E-mails. > > On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 10:42:06 +0100, bb via Naktalk > wrote: > >> Dear Naktalkers, >> >> I am sorry to write to the list for a "side" problem. >> >> Indeed, on November 9, after having ordered 6 kits and 5 big tires, >> I >> have received the package three weeks later. So that was fine as >> Fred >> had told me that he had to move in a new house because of floods >> >> Unfortunately, the 3 kits for 600II did not have the correct reel >> tires >> (the diameter was much larger than that in a previous kit I received >> a >> year before for 550 which has the same transport) >> Additionally, Fred forgot to include the 5 tires. >> >> After three different mails to him, I never received any answer so >> far. >> I was wondering if someone has some news from Fred ? >> >> Or maybe Fred is reading these lines: if so, I would really >> appreciate >> having a answer. >> >> Thanks for all >> Best Regards >> Bernard >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Dec 18 18:40:13 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Daniel Botelho via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 12:40:13 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] No answer from Fred (Marrs Communication) In-Reply-To: <20161218110716.84zfkcgjk48ggc0w@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: <5856c9fe.0c57240a.99df2.7b6d@mx.google.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Dec 18 18:54:18 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Wouter Heijke via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 18:54:18 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] No answer from Fred (Marrs Communication) In-Reply-To: <5856c9fe.0c57240a.99df2.7b6d@mx.google.com> References: <5856c9fe.0c57240a.99df2.7b6d@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <47e77772921853840df714c3dcd50064@xs4all.nl> He is still a mmember btw, just checked: fred at marrscom.com Maybe some message will get through to him, or not. Somebody already found a good alternative source for 'premium' belts? I think those are the only ones you would need Fred's for. Wouter On 2016-12-18 06:40 PM, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote: > Very familiar with the past issues with fred. I thought he was past > that, but you always got PayPal to "convince" him, as he never ignores > those emails. > > ;) > > FYI, I waited months for his order to come through, and had to do a > PayPal dispute to get a refund...very frustrating. I'm sure if you do > a lot of business with him, you will have no issues. > > Sent via the BlackBerry Hub for Android [1] > > FROM: naktalk at lists.naks.com > SENT: December 18, 2016 12:07 PM > TO: wheijke at xs4all.nl; naktalk at lists.naks.com > REPLY-TO: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com > SUBJECT: Re: [naktalk] No answer from Fred (Marrs Communication) > > Yes, I know Wouter, you are exactly right. Really frustrating for a > lot of people, especially those who know the "history" > > On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 17:45:19 +0100, Wouter Heijke via Naktalk > wrote: > >> So there is a different treatment depending on how you approach him, >> is >> not like you are a customer and get treated well always? >> Nice to know, he got it premium stuff started thanks to naktalk.... >> >> Some people... >> >> On 2016-12-18 05:30 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: >>> p{margin: 0;padding: 0;} >>> >>> If you check on the Tapeheads forum, Fred has laid out a certain >>> procedure to follow with a seperate E-mail account for anyone that >> has >>> an issue. If you don't follow his procedure exactly he will ignore >>> your E-mails. >>> >>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 10:42:06 +0100, bb via Naktalk >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Naktalkers, >>>> >>>> I am sorry to write to the list for a "side" problem. >>>> >>>> Indeed, on November 9, after having ordered 6 kits and 5 big >> tires, >>>> I >>>> have received the package three weeks later. So that was fine as >>>> Fred >>>> had told me that he had to move in a new house because of floods >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, the 3 kits for 600II did not have the correct reel >>>> tires >>>> (the diameter was much larger than that in a previous kit I >> received >>>> a >>>> year before for 550 which has the same transport) >>>> Additionally, Fred forgot to include the 5 tires. >>>> >>>> After three different mails to him, I never received any answer >> so >>>> far. >>>> I was wondering if someone has some news from Fred ? >>>> >>>> Or maybe Fred is reading these lines: if so, I would really >>>> appreciate >>>> having a answer. >>>> >>>> Thanks for all >>>> Best Regards >>>> Bernard From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Dec 18 22:07:32 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Warren Bendler via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 16:07:32 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] No answer from Fred (Marrs Communication) In-Reply-To: <47e77772921853840df714c3dcd50064@xs4all.nl> References: <5856c9fe.0c57240a.99df2.7b6d@mx.google.com> <47e77772921853840df714c3dcd50064@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <9a82e2fd-f06a-794d-2f73-73ef94d2152d@sbcglobal.net> Fred's house was destroyed in a flood. He is probably still working on his move out of state. I would keep checking the website for updates and don't order anything until he says he is done with the move. Warren On 12/18/2016 12:54 PM, Wouter Heijke via Naktalk wrote: > He is still a mmember btw, just checked: fred at marrscom.com > Maybe some message will get through to him, or not. > > Somebody already found a good alternative source for 'premium' belts? > I think those are the only ones you would need Fred's for. > > Wouter > > On 2016-12-18 06:40 PM, Daniel Botelho via Naktalk wrote: >> Very familiar with the past issues with fred. I thought he was past >> that, but you always got PayPal to "convince" him, as he never ignores >> those emails. >> >> ;) >> >> FYI, I waited months for his order to come through, and had to do a >> PayPal dispute to get a refund...very frustrating. I'm sure if you do >> a lot of business with him, you will have no issues. >> >> Sent via the BlackBerry Hub for Android [1] >> >> FROM: naktalk at lists.naks.com >> SENT: December 18, 2016 12:07 PM >> TO: wheijke at xs4all.nl; naktalk at lists.naks.com >> REPLY-TO: joyell.solie at sasktel.net; naktalk at lists.naks.com >> SUBJECT: Re: [naktalk] No answer from Fred (Marrs Communication) >> >> Yes, I know Wouter, you are exactly right. Really frustrating for a >> lot of people, especially those who know the "history" >> >> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 17:45:19 +0100, Wouter Heijke via Naktalk >> wrote: >> >>> So there is a different treatment depending on how you approach him, >>> is >>> not like you are a customer and get treated well always? >>> Nice to know, he got it premium stuff started thanks to naktalk.... >>> >>> Some people... >>> >>> On 2016-12-18 05:30 PM, Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk wrote: >>>> p{margin: 0;padding: 0;} >>>> >>>> If you check on the Tapeheads forum, Fred has laid out a certain >>>> procedure to follow with a seperate E-mail account for anyone that >>> has >>>> an issue. If you don't follow his procedure exactly he will ignore >>>> your E-mails. >>>> >>>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 10:42:06 +0100, bb via Naktalk >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Naktalkers, >>>>> >>>>> I am sorry to write to the list for a "side" problem. >>>>> >>>>> Indeed, on November 9, after having ordered 6 kits and 5 big >>> tires, >>>>> I >>>>> have received the package three weeks later. So that was fine as >>>>> Fred >>>>> had told me that he had to move in a new house because of floods >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, the 3 kits for 600II did not have the correct reel >>>>> tires >>>>> (the diameter was much larger than that in a previous kit I >>> received >>>>> a >>>>> year before for 550 which has the same transport) >>>>> Additionally, Fred forgot to include the 5 tires. >>>>> >>>>> After three different mails to him, I never received any answer >>> so >>>>> far. >>>>> I was wondering if someone has some news from Fred ? >>>>> >>>>> Or maybe Fred is reading these lines: if so, I would really >>>>> appreciate >>>>> having a answer. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for all >>>>> Best Regards >>>>> Bernard > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: > http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Dec 19 21:25:50 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Mikemaxcel via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 12:25:50 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] My Dragon`s Capstan Motor low toque and noise Message-ID: Both FG coils measured about 154 & 157 ohm. Motors are optimum and run very smooth,when power-off both keep turning for 7-8 sec before a full stop. All electrolitic capacitors recapped. The right capstan motor still runs with weak torque with faint `tickering` noise. When force applied to the right capstan end,the `tickering` noise increase. Here are two pairs of signal taken from the output of IC515-left/IC516-right Anyone here could help me out? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Dragon capstan_Left_A.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 403033 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there anyway you can switch drivers to try to isolate ?   On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 12:25:50 -0800, Mikemaxcel via Naktalk wrote: Both FG coils measured  about 154 & 157 ohm. Motors are optimum and run very smooth,when power-off both keep turning for 7-8 sec before a full stop. All electrolitic capacitors recapped. The right capstan motor still runs with weak torque with faint `tickering` noise. When force applied to the right capstan end,the `tickering` noise increase. Here are two pairs of signal taken from the output of IC515-left/IC516-right Anyone here could help me out? ------------------------- ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Dec 20 13:58:07 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Mikemaxcel via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 04:58:07 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] My Dragon`s Capstan Motor low toque and noise In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I found 4x 4pins Hall effect sensors on a spare sankyo capstan driver. Even if these are compatible,I don't have the gut to go ahead lest I might damage the driver board. On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 2:01 AM, Mikemaxcel wrote: > I found 4x 4pins Hall effect sensors on a spare sankyo capstan driver. > Even if these are compatible,I don't have the gut to go ahead lest I might > damage the driver board. > > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Willy Hermann < > willy at willyhermannservices.com> wrote: > >> I can't supply but there's a good cross available. I don't remember what >> it is but I think there's a thread on that subject on NakTalk somewhere. >> Anybody out there remember the part number? >> ​ >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The two rectangles represent the future recesses to insert the PB-amp PCB in them and the half-circle on the top of the box is a recess to be made in order to let a tall electrolytic cap to fit inside. The second picture shows to the result one the transport re-inserted in the deck. No real problem. Some comments: The mounting axes used to screw the original belt dive transport stay in place and are not a problem the DD Sankyo can be holf by only three of the four screws (screwed from the front). Indeed, in the case of the bottom right one, the mounting plate of the azimuth device stays half in front of the hole. Soldering of the DD Sankyo: I took the 2 orange wires from the DR-1 original motor and sold it to the +12V of the DD Sankyo PCB I took the green wire from the DR-1 original motor and sold it to the plot labeled STOP on the DD Sankyo PCB (where the original green one came on the BX-300 donor) I have added a black wire between the GND plots of the 3 cam-leaves and one the GND plots on the DD PCB. Is that correct ? Merry Xmas to everyone Bernard Pär Eriksson a écrit : > Hi Bernard, > > I have the same plan for a Cassette Deck 1. I have spotted a problem > though, the circuit board > for the playback amp. Originally its fasten to the same metal plate > that holds the capstan motor. > Since this part is replaced with the DD motor assy there is nowhere to > mount the circuit board. > Do you have any ideas? > > Regards Pelle. > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- From: bb via Naktalk > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 3:27 PM > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: [naktalk] Sankyo DD (A2OLL57) inside a DR-1 > > Dear Naktalkers, > > I want to put into a DR-1 the DD (from a BX-300) in replacement of the > belt-driven two capstan in place > > The swap seems to be quite easy except (for me) with the pin 3 of CN-4 > on BX-300E which is labeleld Power-off > > On the DR-1, the very same pin 3 is labelled "CAPS M" and goes to the > minus pole of the motor and is the same than the black (GND) line of the > transport (for instance on the cam leaves or the DD PCB itself). > > How can I handle this ? > > Thanks for help > Bernard > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: > http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Tooley via Naktalk wrote: Anybodyhere want 2 CD’s of the Tape Marathon 2004?Two CD’s with Priority Mail shipping $15 via PayPal. John T. | | This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com | ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Dec 27 19:49:01 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Nick via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:49:01 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Tape Marathon CD's Mk. II .July 2004 In-Reply-To: <04071B48CDBA4C968BA9822EE85E5901@Desktop> References: <04071B48CDBA4C968BA9822EE85E5901@Desktop> Message-ID: <159419d4006-5f7d-20237@webprd-a67.mail.aol.com> Yes, I'd love to. What is your PayPal address? Thank you. With the very best wishes, Nick. On вторник, декабря 27, 2016 John M. Tooley via Naktalk wrote: Anybody here want 2 CD’s of the Tape Marathon 2004? 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II .July 2004 In-Reply-To: <867539466.1380243.1482859577039@mail.yahoo.com> References: <04071B48CDBA4C968BA9822EE85E5901@Desktop> <867539466.1380243.1482859577039@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2090494275.2733306.1482878662226@mail.yahoo.com> I was one of the participants (you can hear my contribution on track 1 of CD1). As far as I recall, the question of resale never came up. OTOH, this was an adventure in a hobby we all cherished and loved... I would never consider selling my copy. Oh, well... -- Ron From: shanti ramachandran via Naktalk To: John M. Tooley ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Tape Marathon CD's Mk. II .July 2004 It was my knowledge that these CDs were never to be sold for profit. I received my copies from some of the participants and they expressly told me that.  Thanks. Ram. On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 11:13 AM, John M. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Dec 27 23:51:39 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Roland Alford 1 via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 14:51:39 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Tape Marathon CD's Mk. II .July 2004 In-Reply-To: <2090494275.2733306.1482878662226@mail.yahoo.com> References: <04071B48CDBA4C968BA9822EE85E5901@Desktop> <867539466.1380243.1482859577039@mail.yahoo.com> <2090494275.2733306.1482878662226@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: There is still a webpage up on the details of this tape / CD Round the World Project. My little contribution was Disc 1 track 7. http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/nakmarathon.html - Roland From: Ron via Naktalk Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 2:44 PM To: shanti ramachandran ; John M. Tooley ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Tape Marathon CD's Mk. II .July 2004 I was one of the participants (you can hear my contribution on track 1 of CD1). As far as I recall, the question of resale never came up. OTOH, this was an adventure in a hobby we all cherished and loved... I would never consider selling my copy. Oh, well... -- Ron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: shanti ramachandran via Naktalk To: John M. Tooley ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Tape Marathon CD's Mk. II .July 2004 It was my knowledge that these CDs were never to be sold for profit. I received my copies from some of the participants and they expressly told me that. Thanks. Ram. On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 11:13 AM, John M. Tooley via Naktalk wrote: Anybody here want 2 CD’s of the Tape Marathon 2004? Two CD’s with Priority Mail shipping $15 via PayPal. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Dec 28 00:10:14 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Harshad Khatri via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 23:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Tape Marathon CD's Mk. II .July 2004 In-Reply-To: References: <04071B48CDBA4C968BA9822EE85E5901@Desktop> <867539466.1380243.1482859577039@mail.yahoo.com> <2090494275.2733306.1482878662226@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1291301232.2706049.1482880214202@mail.yahoo.com> Yes, that was a fine project from yesteryear which I remember well.  My contribution was track #6 on CD1 Regards, Harshad Mobile: 847-922-0749 From: Roland Alford 1 via Naktalk To: Ron ; shanti ramachandran ; John M. Tooley ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Tape Marathon CD's Mk. II .July 2004 There is still a webpage up on the details of this tape / CD Round the World Project.  My little contribution was Disc 1 track 7. http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/nakmarathon.html - Roland     From: Ron via Naktalk Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 2:44 PMTo: shanti ramachandran ; John M. Tooley ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Tape Marathon CD's Mk. II .July 2004 I was one of the participants (you can hear my contribution on track 1 of CD1). As far as I recall, the question of resale never came up. OTOH, this was an adventure in a hobby we all cherished and loved... I would never consider selling my copy. Oh, well... -- Ron From: shanti ramachandran via Naktalk To: John M. Tooley ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Tape Marathon CD's Mk. II .July 2004 It was my knowledge that these CDs were never to be sold for profit. 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Tooley ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Tape Marathon CD's Mk. II .July 2004 It was my knowledge that these CDs were never to be sold for profit. I received my copies from some of the participants and they expressly told me that.  Thanks. Ram. On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 11:13 AM, John M. Tooley via Naktalk wrote: Anybody here want 2 CD’s of the Tape Marathon 2004? 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As far as I recall, the question of resale never came up. OTOH, this was an adventure in a hobby we all cherished and loved... I would never consider selling my copy. Oh, well... -- Ron From: shanti ramachandran via Naktalk To: John M. Tooley ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Tape Marathon CD's Mk. II .July 2004 It was my knowledge that these CDs were never to be sold for profit. I received my copies from some of the participants and  they expressly told me that.  Thanks. Ram. On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 11:13 AM, John M. Tooley via Naktalk wrote: Anybody here want 2 CD’s of the Tape Marathon 2004? 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II .July 2004 Well..., my track was No.1 at Disc 2 but I've never received my CD copies.I would like to share the experience though in 12 year gap.   With the very best wishes to everyone,Nick. On среда, декабря 28, 2016 Roland via Naktalk wrote: I have all of my CDS and also thought it was never for resale. Roland -------- Original message -------- From: Ron via Naktalk Date: 12/27/2016 5:44 PM (GMT-05:00) To: shanti ramachandran , "John M. Tooley" , Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks , Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Tape Marathon CD's Mk. II .July 2004 I was one of the participants (you can hear my contribution on track 1 of CD1). As far as I recall, the question of resale never came up. OTOH, this was an adventure in a hobby we all cherished and loved... I would never consider selling my copy. Oh, well... -- Ron From: shanti ramachandran via Naktalk To: John M. Tooley ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Tape Marathon CD's Mk. II .July 2004 It was my knowledge that these CDs were never to be sold for profit. I received my copies from some of the participants and they expressly told me that.  Thanks. Ram. On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 11:13 AM, John M. 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II .July 2004 Well..., my track was No.1 at Disc 2 but I've never received my CD copies.I would like to share the experience though in 12 year gap.   With the very best wishes to everyone,Nick. On среда, декабря 28, 2016 Roland via Naktalk wrote: I have all of my CDS and also thought it was never for resale. Roland -------- Original message -------- From: Ron via Naktalk Date: 12/27/2016 5:44 PM (GMT-05:00) To: shanti ramachandran , "John M. Tooley" , Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks , Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Tape Marathon CD's Mk. II .July 2004 I was one of the participants (you can hear my contribution on track 1 of CD1). As far as I recall, the question of resale never came up. OTOH, this was an adventure in a hobby we all cherished and loved... I would never consider selling my copy. Oh, well... -- Ron From: shanti ramachandran via Naktalk To: John M. 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Cheers, -- Ron > > > > > > From: Nick via Naktalk > To: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 6:55 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Tape Marathon CD's Mk. II .July 2004 > > > > Well..., my track was No.1 at Disc 2 but I've never received my CD copies. > I would like to share the experience though in 12 year gap. > With the very best wishes to everyone, > Nick. > > > On среда, декабря 28, 2016 Roland via Naktalk wrote: > > I have all of my CDS and also thought it was never for resale. > > > > Roland > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Ron via Naktalk > Date: 12/27/2016 5:44 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: shanti ramachandran , "John M. Tooley" > , Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > , Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Tape Marathon CD's Mk. II .July 2004 > > > I was one of the participants (you can hear my contribution on track 1 of > CD1). As far as I > recall, the question of resale never came up. OTOH, this was an adventure in a > hobby we > all cherished and loved... I would never consider selling my copy. > > Oh, well... > > -- Ron > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> From: shanti ramachandran via Naktalk >> To: John M. Tooley ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette >> Decks >> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 12:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [naktalk] Tape Marathon CD's Mk. II .July 2004 >> >> >> >> It was my knowledge that these CDs were never to be sold for profit. I >> received my copies from some of the participants and >> they expressly told me that. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Ram. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 11:13 AM, John M. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Dec 28 16:08:23 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (John Gipps via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 01:08:23 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk Digest, Vol 165, Issue 14 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003c01d2611c$4046dc50$c0d494f0$@aol.com> Hi Kannan I have a lousy memory, so I did a search through the notes field in my ancient Nakamichi repair database looking for jobs involving "motor noises". It brought back memories of motor noise and hum present in the playback of some Nakamichi decks with "classic transports" - ones that I repaired many years ago. The common issue with most of these turned out to be a lack of effective earthing of the aluminium panels about which the "classic transport" is constructed. When you "split" the transport for repair, you will find two different lengths of the long screws that hold the transport together. The two longest screws are key in earthing the aluminium panels correctly, and have to be in the correct holes. One long screw, with a washer, connects the rearmost panel to the middle panel. if you loosen off this screw, these two panels are no longer shorted together and they need to be. There is a "G" stamped on the rearmost panel marking the correct location of this long earthing screw. The middle panel and the frontmost panel are also shorted together with the second long earthing screw. Once again, there is a "G" stamped near the correct hole for this screw on the middle panel. Only the two longest (earthing) screws have washers. It's a simple task to measure the resistance between the three aluminium panels with a DVM. The resistance between any two panels should measure close to zero Ohms on a 200 Ohm range (any more than a reading of about 0.2 Ohms - just the test lead resistance really - should be addressed). I sometimes found that the two earthing screws were in the wrong holes. I suspect that these decks had been worked on previously by someone who wasn't experienced with Naks. There are also some motor noise suppression caps (ceramics) on two of the motors - reel and control. The two caps on the reel motor terminals are connected to an earthing lug on the middle aluminium transport panel. If these are missing, or if the lug is not tightly screwed in, you can get motor noise during play. The two caps on the control motor also need to be present, but can only cause noise during movement of the head block. I have no idea whether this is your problem Kannan, but it's worth checking and very quick and easy to do. Good luck with it. May I also take this opportunity to wish all you Naktalkers a Happy Festive Season and a Prosperous 2017. Best Regards John Gipps Message: 5 Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 21:22:27 +0000 (UTC) From: kannan srinivasaraghavan via Naktalk To: bb , Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: [naktalk] Motor Noise in 670ZX machine Message-ID: <1388556145.1563808.1482873747889 at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" In play back - my 670ZX has background motor noise ( looks more likely from Capstan Motor). This can be heard with Output control 3/4 the way up. Any idea how to lower this ? Is due to Motor speed control circuit ? or some capacitor need replacement? Any idea is welcome thanksKannan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Dec 28 22:24:18 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (kannan srinivasaraghavan via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:24:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk Digest, Vol 165, Issue 14 In-Reply-To: <003c01d2611c$4046dc50$c0d494f0$@aol.com> References: <003c01d2611c$4046dc50$c0d494f0$@aol.com> Message-ID: <912942322.2466062.1482960258444@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks John you are right - I have found the connection has increased resistance causing the noise. Once i connected a separate wire to PS ground, noise reduced to great extent. I have another meter less/ azimuth cable missing 670 ZX working fine on all the front including recording. This has still lower noise. But all Naks have some background motor noise leaking in to Playback amp but needs full volume setting with no music to hear it. I consider that is normal S/N issue with Cassette Playback kannan  From: John Gipps To: naktalk at lists.naks.com; naktalk-request at lists.naks.com Cc: kannan_srinivasa at yahoo.com; johngipps at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 9:08 AM Subject: RE: Naktalk Digest, Vol 165, Issue 14 Hi Kannan I have a lousy memory, so I did a search through the notes field in my ancient Nakamichi repair database looking for jobs involving "motor noises". It brought back memories of motor noise and hum present in the playback of some Nakamichi decks with "classic transports" - ones that I repaired many years ago. The common issue with most of these turned out to be a lack of effective earthing of the aluminium panels about which the "classic transport" is constructed. When you "split" the transport for repair, you will find two different lengths of the long screws that hold the transport together. The two longest screws are key in earthing the aluminium panels correctly, and have to be in the correct holes. One long screw, with a washer, connects the rearmost panel to the middle panel.  if you loosen off this screw, these two panels are no longer shorted together  and they need to be. There is a "G" stamped on the rearmost panel marking the correct location of this long earthing screw. The middle panel and the frontmost panel are also shorted together with the second long earthing screw. Once again, there is a "G" stamped near the correct hole for this screw on the middle panel. Only the two longest (earthing) screws have washers. It's a simple task to measure the resistance between the three aluminium panels with a DVM. The resistance between any two panels should measure close to zero Ohms on a 200 Ohm range (any more than a reading of about 0.2 Ohms - just the test lead resistance really - should be addressed). I sometimes found that the two earthing screws were in the wrong holes.  I suspect that these decks had been worked on previously by someone who wasn't experienced with Naks. There are also some motor noise suppression caps (ceramics) on two of the motors - reel and control. The two caps on the reel motor terminals are connected to an earthing lug on the middle aluminium transport panel. If these are missing, or if the lug is not tightly screwed in, you can get motor noise during play. The two caps on the control motor also need to be present, but can only cause noise during movement of the head block. I have no idea whether this is your problem Kannan, but it's worth checking and very quick and easy to do. Good luck with it. May I also take this opportunity to wish all you Naktalkers a Happy Festive Season and a Prosperous 2017. 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Download the CD1 archive (File CD1.exe) from https://www.dropbox.com/s/vjmq3lktdoeyrdl/CD1.exe?dl=0 Download the CD2 archive (File CD2.exe) from https://www.dropbox.com/s/8bhiruuzjnh378w/CD2.exe?dl=0 To extract the FLAC tracks: If you have the WinRAR program on your computer, simply double click each archive file. The password for file CD1.exe is MarathonCD1 (case sensitive). The password for file CD2.exe is MarathonCD2. If you do not have the WinRAR program on your computer, download a trial copy (it's free) from http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm and install it. Make sure to download the version (32bit or 64bit) appropriate for your Windows version. Once the FLAC files are extracted, you can listen to them on the computer, or burn to CDs. If you do not have a FLAC codec on your computer, you should firts download and install file flac-1.2.1b.exe from https://sourceforge.net/projects/flac/files/flac-win/flac-1.2.1-win/ The Marathon tracks will be available for download for a week. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Dec 30 21:52:07 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ron via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] The NakTalk Marathon Tape Project In-Reply-To: <438405694.4382324.1483130797587@mail.yahoo.com> References: <438405694.4382324.1483130797587.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <438405694.4382324.1483130797587@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <772744789.4375028.1483131127558@mail.yahoo.com> Forgot to mention that the CDs' contents are available at: NakTalk Marathon Tape Status Page | | | | | | | | | | | NakTalk Marathon Tape Status Page A website devoted to the Nak Marathon Tape Project! | | | | From: Ron via Naktalk To: "naktalk at naks.com" Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 3:46 PM Subject: [naktalk] The NakTalk Marathon Tape Project As promised, here are the NakTalk Marathon project files. For some strange reason, my computer no longer agrees to produce ISO files. Rather than spend time debugging, I saved the Marathon project into two RAR archives: 10 tracks for CD1 and 11 tracks for CD2. All tracks are in FLAC format. Download the CD1 archive (File CD1.exe) from https://www.dropbox.com/s/vjmq3lktdoeyrdl/CD1.exe?dl=0 Download the CD2 archive (File CD2.exe) from https://www.dropbox.com/s/8bhiruuzjnh378w/CD2.exe?dl=0 To extract the FLAC tracks: If you have the WinRAR program on your computer, simply double click each archive file. The password for file CD1.exe is MarathonCD1 (case sensitive). The password for file CD2.exe is MarathonCD2. If you do not have the WinRAR program on your computer, download a trial copy (it's free) from http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm and install it. Make sure to download the version (32bit or 64bit) appropriate for your Windows version. Once the FLAC files are extracted, you can listen to them on the computer, or burn to CDs. If you do not have a FLAC codec on your computer, you should firts download and install file flac-1.2.1b.exe from https://sourceforge.net/projects/flac/files/flac-win/flac-1.2.1-win/ The Marathon tracks will be available for download for a week. Please note: these tracks are NOT for sale. Please DO NOT GIVE THE PASSWORDS OR FILES TO ANYONE WHO IS NOT A NAKTALK MEMBER. Enjoy, -- Ron ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Dec 30 21:52:07 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ron via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] The NakTalk Marathon Tape Project In-Reply-To: <438405694.4382324.1483130797587@mail.yahoo.com> References: <438405694.4382324.1483130797587.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <438405694.4382324.1483130797587@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <772744789.4375028.1483131127558@mail.yahoo.com> Forgot to mention that the CDs' contents are available at: NakTalk Marathon Tape Status Page | | | | | | | | | | | NakTalk Marathon Tape Status Page A website devoted to the Nak Marathon Tape Project! | | | | From: Ron via Naktalk To: "naktalk at naks.com" Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 3:46 PM Subject: [naktalk] The NakTalk Marathon Tape Project As promised, here are the NakTalk Marathon project files. For some strange reason, my computer no longer agrees to produce ISO files. Rather than spend time debugging, I saved the Marathon project into two RAR archives: 10 tracks for CD1 and 11 tracks for CD2. All tracks are in FLAC format. Download the CD1 archive (File CD1.exe) from https://www.dropbox.com/s/vjmq3lktdoeyrdl/CD1.exe?dl=0 Download the CD2 archive (File CD2.exe) from https://www.dropbox.com/s/8bhiruuzjnh378w/CD2.exe?dl=0 To extract the FLAC tracks: If you have the WinRAR program on your computer, simply double click each archive file. The password for file CD1.exe is MarathonCD1 (case sensitive). The password for file CD2.exe is MarathonCD2. If you do not have the WinRAR program on your computer, download a trial copy (it's free) from http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm and install it. Make sure to download the version (32bit or 64bit) appropriate for your Windows version. Once the FLAC files are extracted, you can listen to them on the computer, or burn to CDs. If you do not have a FLAC codec on your computer, you should firts download and install file flac-1.2.1b.exe from https://sourceforge.net/projects/flac/files/flac-win/flac-1.2.1-win/ The Marathon tracks will be available for download for a week. Please note: these tracks are NOT for sale. Please DO NOT GIVE THE PASSWORDS OR FILES TO ANYONE WHO IS NOT A NAKTALK MEMBER. Enjoy, -- Ron ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Dec 30 22:04:49 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (shanti ramachandran via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] The NakTalk Marathon Tape Project In-Reply-To: <438405694.4382324.1483130797587@mail.yahoo.com> References: <438405694.4382324.1483130797587.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <438405694.4382324.1483130797587@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <914405353.4116630.1483131889459@mail.yahoo.com> Well, glad for these files. Now no one will try and sell these. :) Ram. On Friday, December 30, 2016 3:46 PM, Ron via Naktalk wrote: As promised, here are the NakTalk Marathon project files. For some strange reason, my computer no longer agrees to produce ISO files. Rather than spend time debugging, I saved the Marathon project into two RAR archives: 10 tracks for CD1 and 11 tracks for CD2. All tracks are in FLAC format. Download the CD1 archive (File CD1.exe) from https://www.dropbox.com/s/vjmq3lktdoeyrdl/CD1.exe?dl=0 Download the CD2 archive (File CD2.exe) from https://www.dropbox.com/s/8bhiruuzjnh378w/CD2.exe?dl=0 To extract the FLAC tracks: If you have the WinRAR program on your computer, simply double click each archive file. The password for file CD1.exe is MarathonCD1 (case sensitive). The password for file CD2.exe is MarathonCD2. If you do not have the WinRAR program on your computer, download a trial copy (it's free) from http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm and install it. Make sure to download the version (32bit or 64bit) appropriate for your Windows version. Once the FLAC files are extracted, you can listen to them on the computer, or burn to CDs. If you do not have a FLAC codec on your computer, you should firts download and install file flac-1.2.1b.exe from https://sourceforge.net/projects/flac/files/flac-win/flac-1.2.1-win/ The Marathon tracks will be available for download for a week. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Dec 31 00:10:10 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Harshad Khatri via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] The NakTalk Marathon Tape Project In-Reply-To: <438405694.4382324.1483130797587@mail.yahoo.com> References: <438405694.4382324.1483130797587.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <438405694.4382324.1483130797587@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2069553394.4408443.1483139410266@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks, Ron.   Wishing all the Naktalk-ers a great 2017! Regards, Harshad Mobile: 847-922-0749 From: Ron via Naktalk To: "naktalk at naks.com" Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 2:46 PM Subject: [naktalk] The NakTalk Marathon Tape Project As promised, here are the NakTalk Marathon project files. For some strange reason, my computer no longer agrees to produce ISO files. Rather than spend time debugging, I saved the Marathon project into two RAR archives: 10 tracks for CD1 and 11 tracks for CD2. All tracks are in FLAC format. Download the CD1 archive (File CD1.exe) from https://www.dropbox.com/s/vjmq3lktdoeyrdl/CD1.exe?dl=0 Download the CD2 archive (File CD2.exe) from https://www.dropbox.com/s/8bhiruuzjnh378w/CD2.exe?dl=0 To extract the FLAC tracks: If you have the WinRAR program on your computer, simply double click each archive file. The password for file CD1.exe is MarathonCD1 (case sensitive). The password for file CD2.exe is MarathonCD2. If you do not have the WinRAR program on your computer, download a trial copy (it's free) from http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm and install it. Make sure to download the version (32bit or 64bit) appropriate for your Windows version. Once the FLAC files are extracted, you can listen to them on the computer, or burn to CDs. If you do not have a FLAC codec on your computer, you should firts download and install file flac-1.2.1b.exe from https://sourceforge.net/projects/flac/files/flac-win/flac-1.2.1-win/ The Marathon tracks will be available for download for a week. Please note: these tracks are NOT for sale. Please DO NOT GIVE THE PASSWORDS OR FILES TO ANYONE WHO IS NOT A NAKTALK MEMBER. Enjoy, -- Ron ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Dec 31 08:55:50 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (bb via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 08:55:50 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 700ZXL LED meter stuck with Dolby on Message-ID: <58676486.9080605@gmail.com> Dear all, My 700ZXL, once warm, exhibits the symptoms showed in the following video: https://youtu.be/kThdwZe1loA As you can see, 1. the brightness of the counter decreases as the sound increases, that is when more LEDs shine on the LED meter 2. the situation becomes worse when the Dolby is switched on: the counter can be reset and the LED meter becomes stuck! This is reversible when Doby is turned off. Has someone ever encounter this problem ? Happy New Year to every one Ron, thanks for the link to access Nak Marathon CDs. Bernard From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Dec 31 03:22:12 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 02:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] The NakTalk Marathon Tape Project In-Reply-To: <438405694.4382324.1483130797587@mail.yahoo.com> References: <438405694.4382324.1483130797587.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <438405694.4382324.1483130797587@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1352121514.4232051.1483150932400@mail.yahoo.com> Possibly software makers making changes to accomodate copy protection legislation?Excellent work nevertheless. There will be no stopping people who will try to make a quick dollar or two with anything they can.  Wishing everyone a Happy New Year.  Best Regards,Bala Ganesh From: Ron via Naktalk To: "naktalk at naks.com" Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 6:46 AM Subject: [naktalk] The NakTalk Marathon Tape Project As promised, here are the NakTalk Marathon project files. For some strange reason, my computer no longer agrees to produce ISO files. Rather than spend time debugging, I saved the Marathon project into two RAR archives: 10 tracks for CD1 and 11 tracks for CD2. All tracks are in FLAC format. Download the CD1 archive (File CD1.exe) from https://www.dropbox.com/s/vjmq3lktdoeyrdl/CD1.exe?dl=0 Download the CD2 archive (File CD2.exe) from https://www.dropbox.com/s/8bhiruuzjnh378w/CD2.exe?dl=0 To extract the FLAC tracks: If you have the WinRAR program on your computer, simply double click each archive file. The password for file CD1.exe is MarathonCD1 (case sensitive). The password for file CD2.exe is MarathonCD2. If you do not have the WinRAR program on your computer, download a trial copy (it's free) from http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm and install it. Make sure to download the version (32bit or 64bit) appropriate for your Windows version. Once the FLAC files are extracted, you can listen to them on the computer, or burn to CDs. If you do not have a FLAC codec on your computer, you should firts download and install file flac-1.2.1b.exe from https://sourceforge.net/projects/flac/files/flac-win/flac-1.2.1-win/ The Marathon tracks will be available for download for a week. Please note: these tracks are NOT for sale. Please DO NOT GIVE THE PASSWORDS OR FILES TO ANYONE WHO IS NOT A NAKTALK MEMBER. Enjoy, -- Ron ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Dec 31 03:28:11 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Rick at Stereomanuals via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:28:11 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] The NakTalk Marathon Tape Project In-Reply-To: <438405694.4382324.1483130797587@mail.yahoo.com> References: <438405694.4382324.1483130797587.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <438405694.4382324.1483130797587@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: If anybody is interested, here are possibly more useful file names for the CD1 and CD2 tracks. CD1-01_There'll be Some Changes Made_Diahann Carroll.flac CD1-02_Vibraciones Positivas_YaYa.flac CD1-03_Everything (Is Never Quite Enough)_Wasis Diop.flac CD1-04_Too Much_The Dave Matthews Band.flac CD1-05_Bottle_Marc Moulin.flac CD1-06_La Danse Du Bonheur_Shakti.flac CD1-07_My Mood_MFSB.flac CD1-08_Little Blind Fish_CPR.flac CD1-09_Brazil_Pink Martini.flac CD1-10_I Almost Had A Weakness_Elvis Costello.flac CD2-01_Ariana_Spyro Gyra.flac CD2-02_Rann Na Mana_Capercaille.flac CD2-03_Mi Madre, Mi Hija_Santana.flac CD2-04_Classical Gas_Mick Gilliam, Doug Denton, Daryl Martin.flac CD2-05_Too Many Ups And Downs_Terry Evan.flac CD2-06_Still A Fool_Bob Dylan.flac CD2-07_Switchblade Operator_Marc Almond & Friends.flac CD2-08_Child of the Wind_Bruce Cockburn.flac CD2-09_Caroline No_The Beach Boys.flac CD2-10_Pet Sounds_The Beach Boys.flac CD2-11_Les Douze Mois_Lais.flac And if anybody is interested, here is a link to a pdf file you can download for approximately 7 days from now which is an edited and reformatted version of the web page content describing the project. https://spaces.hightail.com/receive/pdwnR Best regards, Rick http://www.stereomanuals.com _____ From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Ron via Naktalk Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 3:47 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] The NakTalk Marathon Tape Project As promised, here are the NakTalk Marathon project files. For some strange reason, my computer no longer agrees to produce ISO files. Rather than spend time debugging, I saved the Marathon project into two RAR archives: 10 tracks for CD1 and 11 tracks for CD2. All tracks are in FLAC format. Download the CD1 archive (File CD1.exe) from https://www.dropbox.com/s/vjmq3lktdoeyrdl/CD1.exe?dl=0 Download the CD2 archive (File CD2.exe) from https://www.dropbox.com/s/8bhiruuzjnh378w/CD2.exe?dl=0 To extract the FLAC tracks: If you have the WinRAR program on your computer, simply double click each archive file. The password for file CD1.exe is MarathonCD1 (case sensitive). The password for file CD2.exe is MarathonCD2. If you do not have the WinRAR program on your computer, download a trial copy (it's free) from http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm and install it. Make sure to download the version (32bit or 64bit) appropriate for your Windows version. Once the FLAC files are extracted, you can listen to them on the computer, or burn to CDs. If you do not have a FLAC codec on your computer, you should firts download and install file flac-1.2.1b.exe from https://sourceforge.net/projects/flac/files/flac-win/flac-1.2.1-win/ The Marathon tracks will be available for download for a week. Please note: these tracks are NOT for sale. Please DO NOT GIVE THE PASSWORDS OR FILES TO ANYONE WHO IS NOT A NAKTALK MEMBER. Enjoy, -- Ron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Dec 31 10:10:27 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Gabriel Radulescu via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 11:10:27 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi BX-300: request for plastic screws Message-ID: Dear Naktalk members, I have a big request, maybe someone from you can help me. I am restoring a Nakamichi BX 300, the problem being that some plastic screws from the heads adjustment are missing. I "replaced" them with small M3 metalic screws, but this is just a temporary solution. So, my questions is: do you know a reliable source for getting these screws? I need (at least) the 2 "big" screws for record/playback heads azimuth adjust and the 2 "small" upper screws for record/playback zenith adjustment. The 2 gear wheels (for height adjustment) are fine so I don't explicitly need them. Waiting for your answer, I wish you all a very Happy New Year! Gabriel, Romania. From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Dec 31 14:26:27 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Gabriel Radulescu via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 15:26:27 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi BX-300: request for plastic screws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you very much for your answer, but I am looking for the original (or copy from original) screws, as I am trying to restore the BX 300. Now I am also using M3 items - I think I will replace the metallic screws with plastic ones until I get the originals... Cheers, Gabriel. 2016-12-31 12:18 GMT+02:00 Ingemar Lindqvist : > About the white plastic screws for azimuth adjustment: > I have a Nak CR3 where one azimuth srew was crashed. At first, this worried > me much, until I found that a usual M3 skrew can be used. So now I have a > nylon M3 screw there, and it works great. I have this nylon screw for the > playback head azimuth, and I use the deck for making digitization of > cassette recordings. So I have to make adjustments of this screw for every > cassette I digitize. I am really very happy that I could solve this problem > so easially, and this deck is a great happiness to own and use. > > Ingemar > > -------- Originalmeddelande -------- > Från: Gabriel Radulescu via Naktalk > Datum: 2016-12-31 10:10 (GMT+01:00) > Till: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Rubrik: [naktalk] Nakamichi BX-300: request for plastic screws > > Dear Naktalk members, > > I have a big request, maybe someone from you can help me. > > I am restoring a Nakamichi BX 300, the problem being that some plastic > screws from the heads adjustment are missing. I "replaced" them with > small M3 metalic screws, but this is just a temporary solution. > > So, my questions is: do you know a reliable source for getting these > screws? I need (at least) the 2 "big" screws for record/playback heads > azimuth adjust and the 2 "small" upper screws for record/playback > zenith adjustment. The 2 gear wheels (for height adjustment) are fine > so I don't explicitly need them. > > Waiting for your answer, I wish you all a very Happy New Year! > > Gabriel, > Romania. > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Dec 31 11:18:49 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ingemar Lindqvist via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 11:18:49 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi BX-300: request for plastic screws Message-ID: About the white plastic screws for azimuth adjustment:I have a Nak CR3 where one azimuth srew was crashed. At first, this worried me much, until I found that a usual M3 skrew can be used. So now I have a nylon M3 screw there, and it works great. I have this nylon screw for the playback head azimuth, and I use the deck for making digitization of cassette recordings. So I have to make adjustments of this screw for every cassette I digitize. I am really very happy that I could solve this problem so easially, and this deck is a great happiness to own and use. Ingemar -------- Originalmeddelande --------Från: Gabriel Radulescu via Naktalk Datum: 2016-12-31 10:10 (GMT+01:00) Till: naktalk at lists.naks.com Rubrik: [naktalk] Nakamichi BX-300: request for plastic screws Dear Naktalk members, I have a big request, maybe someone from you can help me. I am restoring a Nakamichi BX 300, the problem being that some plastic screws from the heads adjustment are missing. I "replaced" them with small M3 metalic screws, but this is just a temporary solution. So, my questions is: do you know a reliable source for getting these screws? I need (at least) the 2 "big" screws for record/playback heads azimuth adjust and the 2 "small" upper screws for record/playback zenith adjustment. The 2 gear wheels (for height adjustment) are fine so I don't explicitly need them. Waiting for your answer, I wish you all a very Happy New Year! Gabriel, Romania. ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2016\2016-February.txt.txt ************************************************************************ From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Feb 3 22:42:18 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Rodrigo Krause dos Santos Rocha via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 19:42:18 -0200 Subject: [naktalk] RX202 versus RX303 In-Reply-To: <1439589663.1082094.1453922672239.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <20160127112915.pown0bis08k084ss@webmail.sasktel.net> <1439589663.1082094.1453922672239.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <14B7852B-0204-4490-858F-A95F997BCA68@terra.com.br> Hi everyone, Could you share with me what the difference between the Nak RX202 and 303 are? I am aware that the mechanics and maybe the electronics in the 303 are similar to those in the top of the line 505 except for the number of heads. What would the main differences between them be? Thank you! Rodrigo Krause dos Santos Rocha rksr59 at terra.com.br From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Feb 4 21:54:44 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 20:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] RX-303 vs RX-202 Message-ID: <2079741748.22506171.1454619284822.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Feb 5 08:47:40 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (paul de wit via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 07:47:40 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] RX-303 vs RX-202 In-Reply-To: <2079741748.22506171.1454619284822.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <2079741748.22506171.1454619284822.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: If somebody is interested, I want to sell my RX505. Optically it's in a very good condition. Technically: It records and plays back, Reverse is working fine, so it does what it should be doing. I can let it go for 700 euro's. It's a very nice looking deck but I don't use it so much. Regards, Paul ________________________________ Van: Naktalk namens via Naktalk Verzonden: donderdag 4 februari 2016 21:54 Aan: naktalk at lists.naks.com Onderwerp: [naktalk] RX-303 vs RX-202 The ONLY thing the two share in common is UDAR and that they have 2 heads. Otherwise, the 303 is a 505 minus a set of dolby amps and some features and has an LX-3 type slide switch. The RX-202 is pretty much a BX-100 with UDAR. Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Feb 5 22:49:41 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Rodrigo Krause dos Santos Rocha via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 19:49:41 -0200 Subject: [naktalk] RX-303 vs RX-202 In-Reply-To: References: <2079741748.22506171.1454619284822.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: Thank you Paul! Rodrigo Krause dos Santos Rocha rksr59 at terra.com.br > On Feb 5, 2016, at 5:47 AM, paul de wit via Naktalk wrote: > > If somebody is interested, I want to sell my RX505. Optically it's in a very good condition. Technically: It records and plays back, Reverse is working fine, so it does what it should be doing. > I can let it go for 700 euro's. It's a very nice looking deck but I don't use it so much. > > Regards, > > Paul > > > > > Van: Naktalk namens via Naktalk > Verzonden: donderdag 4 februari 2016 21:54 > Aan: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Onderwerp: [naktalk] RX-303 vs RX-202 > > The ONLY thing the two share in common is UDAR and that they have 2 heads. Otherwise, the 303 is a 505 minus a set of dolby amps and some features and has an LX-3 type slide switch. The RX-202 is pretty much a BX-100 with UDAR. > > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Feb 14 10:31:30 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (bb via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 10:31:30 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 680ZX Auto-azimuth issue Message-ID: <56C04972.40706@gmail.com> Dear NakTalkers, My 680ZX auto-azimuth works properly at both speeds for each type but in EX type -regular speed. In this case, no signal on the rigth channel. I changed the three 4066 (ic304, 305, 306) that I socketed: no change. I do not see any PP cap in the way. Any clue ? C285 on Cal PCB A ? thanks bernard From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Feb 15 09:49:11 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 08:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] 680ZX Auto-azimuth issue In-Reply-To: <56C04972.40706@gmail.com> References: <56C04972.40706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <18711037.4003819.1455526151394.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Bernard, Have you given the rocker switches a good clean? Kind Regards, Bala From: bb via Naktalk To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 9:31 AM Subject: [naktalk] 680ZX Auto-azimuth issue Dear NakTalkers, My 680ZX auto-azimuth works properly at both speeds for each type but in EX type -regular speed. In this case, no signal on the rigth channel. I changed the three 4066 (ic304, 305, 306) that I socketed: no change. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Feb 15 10:22:36 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (bb via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 10:22:36 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 680ZX Auto-azimuth issue In-Reply-To: <18711037.4003819.1455526151394.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <56C04972.40706@gmail.com> <18711037.4003819.1455526151394.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <56C198DC.1040907@gmail.com> Hi Bala, No, I will. Why the rocker switch would be at fault only on regular speed ? Thanks Bernard Bala Ganesh Chandra a écrit : > Hi Bernard, > > Have you given the rocker switches a good clean? > > Kind Regards, > Bala > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* bb via Naktalk > *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > *Sent:* Sunday, February 14, 2016 9:31 AM > *Subject:* [naktalk] 680ZX Auto-azimuth issue > > Dear NakTalkers, > > My 680ZX auto-azimuth works properly at both speeds for each type but in > EX type -regular speed. In this case, no signal on the rigth channel. > > I changed the three 4066 (ic304, 305, 306) that I socketed: no change. I > do not see any PP cap in the way. > > Any clue ? C285 on Cal PCB A ? > > thanks > > bernard > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com > mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Feb 15 15:01:16 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?Q?P=C3=A4r_Eriksson?= via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 15:01:16 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 680ZX Auto-azimuth issue In-Reply-To: <18711037.4003819.1455526151394.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <56C04972.40706@gmail.com> <18711037.4003819.1455526151394.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Bernard, Does it record normally when using EX tapes? Regards Par. From: Bala Ganesh Chandra via Naktalk Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 9:49 AM To: bb ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] 680ZX Auto-azimuth issue Hi Bernard, Have you given the rocker switches a good clean? Kind Regards, Bala -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bb via Naktalk To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 9:31 AM Subject: [naktalk] 680ZX Auto-azimuth issue Dear NakTalkers, My 680ZX auto-azimuth works properly at both speeds for each type but in EX type -regular speed. In this case, no signal on the rigth channel. I changed the three 4066 (ic304, 305, 306) that I socketed: no change. I do not see any PP cap in the way. Any clue ? 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Feb 16 09:08:00 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (wheijke via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 09:08:00 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Vinyl series Message-ID: <58ee495f53f72f451e64de78162a05be@xs4all.nl> Hey, Anyone watched the first episode of the new Vinyl series? Loaded with vintage early 70's audio gear! I spotted a Nak 700 at some point. So far it seems they did their research! Wouter From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Feb 16 09:12:56 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bala Ganesh Chandra via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 08:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Vinyl series In-Reply-To: <58ee495f53f72f451e64de78162a05be@xs4all.nl> References: <58ee495f53f72f451e64de78162a05be@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1471019298.4543226.1455610376300.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Is this a TV show? Bala From: wheijke via Naktalk To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 8:08 AM Subject: [naktalk] Vinyl series Hey, Anyone watched the first episode of the new Vinyl series? Loaded with vintage early 70's audio gear! I spotted a Nak 700 at some point. So far it seems they did their research! Wouter ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Feb 16 09:44:18 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (wheijke via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 09:44:18 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Vinyl series In-Reply-To: <1471019298.4543226.1455610376300.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <58ee495f53f72f451e64de78162a05be@xs4all.nl> <1471019298.4543226.1455610376300.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes it is! On 2016-02-16 09:12 AM, Bala Ganesh Chandra wrote: > Is this a TV show? > > Bala > From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Feb 16 09:44:55 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (wheijke via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 09:44:55 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Vinyl series In-Reply-To: <1471019298.4543226.1455610376300.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <58ee495f53f72f451e64de78162a05be@xs4all.nl> <1471019298.4543226.1455610376300.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes it is! On 2016-02-16 09:12 AM, Bala Ganesh Chandra via Naktalk wrote: > Is this a TV show? > > Bala > > ------------------------- > FROM: wheijke via Naktalk > TO: naktalk at naks.com > SENT: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 8:08 AM > SUBJECT: [naktalk] Vinyl series > > Hey, > > Anyone watched the first episode of the new Vinyl series? > Loaded with vintage early 70's audio gear! > I spotted a Nak 700 at some point. So far it seems they did their > research! > > Wouter From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Feb 17 22:22:38 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Thomas R via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:22:38 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Vinyl series In-Reply-To: <58ee495f53f72f451e64de78162a05be@xs4all.nl> References: <58ee495f53f72f451e64de78162a05be@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: I think i saw Sony and Pioneer reel to reel decks and a Marantz integrated amp and maybe a Pioneer separate amp and tuner . thomas. On Tuesday, February 16, 2016, wheijke via Naktalk wrote: > Hey, > > Anyone watched the first episode of the new Vinyl series? > Loaded with vintage early 70's audio gear! > I spotted a Nak 700 at some point. So far it seems they did their research! > > Wouter > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Feb 18 14:04:57 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (bb via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 14:04:57 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 680ZX Auto-azimuth issue In-Reply-To: <18711037.4003819.1455526151394.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <56C04972.40706@gmail.com> <18711037.4003819.1455526151394.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <56C5C179.1080903@gmail.com> Hi Bala, I have injected contact cleaner in the tape type rocker switch (EX-SX-ZX) but ...no change : do these switches need to be opened for cleaning ? Bernard Bala Ganesh Chandra a écrit : > Hi Bernard, > > Have you given the rocker switches a good clean? > > Kind Regards, > Bala > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* bb via Naktalk > *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > *Sent:* Sunday, February 14, 2016 9:31 AM > *Subject:* [naktalk] 680ZX Auto-azimuth issue > > Dear NakTalkers, > > My 680ZX auto-azimuth works properly at both speeds for each type but in > EX type -regular speed. In this case, no signal on the rigth channel. > > I changed the three 4066 (ic304, 305, 306) that I socketed: no change. I > do not see any PP cap in the way. > > Any clue ? C285 on Cal PCB A ? > > thanks > > bernard > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com > mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Feb 18 15:57:00 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?b?Sm95LUVsbCAmIFJhaW5lcg==?= via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:57:00 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] 680ZX Auto-azimuth issue In-Reply-To: <56C5C179.1080903@gmail.com> References: <56C04972.40706@gmail.com> <18711037.4003819.1455526151394.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <56C5C179.1080903@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20160218085700.x49rzx8jk04sggw0@webmail.sasktel.net> You changed the 4066's that you had previously socketed (socketed before the problem occured ?)   Rainer > Dear NakTalkers, > > My 680ZX auto-azimuth works properly at both speeds for each type but in > EX type -regular speed. In this case, no signal on the rigth channel. > > I changed the three 4066 (ic304, 305, 306) that I socketed: no change. I > do not see any PP cap in the way. > > Any clue ? C285 on Cal PCB A ? > > thanks > > bernard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Feb 18 16:41:04 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (bb via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 16:41:04 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 680ZX Auto-azimuth issue In-Reply-To: <20160218085700.x49rzx8jk04sggw0@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <56C04972.40706@gmail.com> <18711037.4003819.1455526151394.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <56C5C179.1080903@gmail.com> <20160218085700.x49rzx8jk04sggw0@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: <56C5E610.6070803@gmail.com> No, I noticed the problem and them I realized that the 4066 could be the culprit and changed them, hence the sockets. I also reinstalled the original 4066 taking care o finstalling them at a different place they originally were, no chnage, that is always the same symptom (of no right sihnal in EX type regular speed). The problem remains the same that it was before I did anything. Bernard Joy-Ell & Rainer a écrit : > > You changed the 4066's that you had previously socketed (socketed > before the problem occured ?) > > > > Rainer > > > > Dear NakTalkers, > > > > My 680ZX auto-azimuth works properly at both speeds for each > type but in > > EX type -regular speed. In this case, no signal on the rigth > channel. > > > > I changed the three 4066 (ic304, 305, 306) that I socketed: no > change. I > > do not see any PP cap in the way. > > > > Any clue ? C285 on Cal PCB A ? > > > > thanks > > > > bernard > From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Feb 27 21:30:09 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 20:30:09 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] =?utf-8?q?Nakamichi_680_problem?= Message-ID: <999771.56845.bm@smtp219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hi Nakguys, with the PLAY button pressed my Nak680 does not have sound, and no movement of FL level indicators. When I press PAUSE and FF/REW - CUE mode I have sound and FL indicators move with a little higher position /a little higher than “0/”. The RAMM works properly, /I think/ What I noticed is in PLAY BACK mode the heads stay a little higher than in CUE mode. Do you guys thing this is easy fix problem? Thank you for any help. Vesselin Sent from Windows Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Do you guys thing this is easy fix problem? Thank you for any help. Vesselin Sent from Windows Mail -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2016\2016-January.txt.txt ************************************************************************ From wotbob01 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 1 17:23:30 2016 From: wotbob01 at yahoo.com (Bob Naylor) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 16:23:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Hi... New to Naktalk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <135889145.232877.1451665410337.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Rick, Welcome and happy new year all!Bob N From: wheijke via Naktalk To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Hi... New to Naktalk Hi Rick, This is the way to communicate.. old fashion email! Welcome! Wouter On 2015-12-31 07:54 PM, richard bunch via Naktalk wrote: > I am new to Naktalk and not sure how the communications network is > supposed to work.  I am used to conventional Forums.  Anyway, I am > replacing the belts on my LX-3 and am recording the process in a > pictorial with annotation.  Is this useful to anyone?  If so, how do I > use Naktalk to post this? > > If this is the wrong way to do this, I apologize... > > Cheers, > > Rick > > NAK LX-3 Cassette Deck ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rick at stereomanuals.com Fri Jan 1 22:30:06 2016 From: rick at stereomanuals.com (Rick at StereoManuals.com) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 16:30:06 -0500 Subject: Why are group messages are now file attachments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Starting on December 19th, nearly ALL email messages from this NAK group begin to arrive with no text in the body of the email. Instead, all messages are now in a file attachment. Am I the only one getting all messages as file attachments? I find it difficult to believe nobody else has commented on this as it makes reading messages much less convenient. Best regards, Rick http://www.stereomanuals.com From rick at stereomanuals.com Fri Jan 1 22:33:51 2016 From: rick at stereomanuals.com (Rick at StereoManuals.com) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 16:33:51 -0500 Subject: Why are group messages are now file attachments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Starting on December 19th, nearly ALL email messages from this NAK group begin to arrive with no text in the body of the email. Instead, all messages are now in a file attachment. Am I the only one getting all messages as file attachments? I find it difficult to believe nobody else has commented on this as it makes reading messages much less convenient. Best regards, Rick http://www.stereomanuals.com From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jan 1 23:08:06 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Mark Exstedt via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 22:08:06 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Why are group messages are now file attachments In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: I get the messages also in an attachment. ________________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Rick at StereoManuals.com via Naktalk Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 3:01 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Why are group messages are now file attachments ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jan 1 23:20:36 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Thomas R via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 17:20:36 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Why are group messages are now file attachments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes Rick , I'm not getting emails with any text in them anymore either . What is going on now ? Everything was working before . Now I have to go to the archives to read the emails . thomas. On Friday, January 1, 2016, Rick at StereoManuals.com via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The second part can be html, for those using html-capable Mail readers. -Ti -- Sent from my commlock > On Jan 1, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Rick at StereoManuals.com via Naktalk wrote: > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Jan 2 01:36:58 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 00:36:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Why are group messages are now file attachments In-Reply-To: <767805AC-6C1F-4EEE-AFA6-DC0A1BEAB77A@amb.org> References: <767805AC-6C1F-4EEE-AFA6-DC0A1BEAB77A@amb.org> Message-ID: <147101304.5606501.1451695018295.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I'm confused. All my Nak-talk e-mail has the text in the body of the msg. I do not have to open any attachments to read them. Am I missing something?BobN From: Ti Kan via Naktalk To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Why are group messages are now file attachments Same here. Not only that, the attachment is in html. I use a plain-text mail reader and it's impossible to decipher the contents.  If the mail is going to be s multipart MIME message, then the first part should be plain-text. The second part can be html, for those using html-capable Mail readers. -Ti -- Sent from my commlock > On Jan 1, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Rick at StereoManuals.com via Naktalk wrote: > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Jan 2 03:03:08 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ti Kan via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 18:03:08 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Why are group messages are now file attachments In-Reply-To: <147101304.5606501.1451695018295.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <767805AC-6C1F-4EEE-AFA6-DC0A1BEAB77A@amb.org> <147101304.5606501.1451695018295.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Maybe it has something to do with the sender. My email to the group came back with plain text now, and so did yours. Or maybe Wouter made a change? -Ti -- Sent from my commlock > On Jan 1, 2016, at 4:36 PM, Bob Naylor wrote: > > I'm confused. All my Nak-talk e-mail has the text in the body of the msg. I do not have to open any attachments to read them. Am I missing something? > BobN > > > > From: Ti Kan via Naktalk > To: naktalk at naks.com > Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 3:19 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Why are group messages are now file attachments > > Same here. Not only that, the attachment is in html. I use a plain-text mail reader and it's impossible to decipher the contents. If the mail is going to be s multipart MIME message, then the first part should be plain-text. The second part can be html, for those using html-capable Mail readers. > > -Ti > -- > Sent from my commlock > > > > On Jan 1, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Rick at StereoManuals.com via Naktalk wrote: > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It is in violation of Google recommended email sender guidelines " Umesh ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Rick at StereoManuals.com" To: "'Bob Naylor'" , "'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks'" Cc: Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 16:30:06 -0500 Subject: Why are group messages are now file attachments Starting on December 19th, nearly ALL email messages from this NAK group begin to arrive with no text in the body of the email. Instead, all messages are now in a file attachment. Am I the only one getting all messages as file attachments? I find it difficult to believe nobody else has commented on this as it makes reading messages much less convenient. Best regards, Rick http://www.stereomanuals.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Jan 2 05:46:01 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Rodrigo via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 02:46:01 -0200 Subject: [naktalk] Why are group messages are now file attachments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2366B71E-8808-4E53-AD84-2CB3B43CA644@terra.com.br> I agree. I don't know how to do it (if it is up to us anyway...!?). Could someone clarify this please? Thank you all and a happy New year! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🍾🍸👏 Sent from my iPhone > On 1 de jan de 2016, at 19:33, Rick at StereoManuals.com wrote: > > > Starting on December 19th, nearly ALL email messages from this NAK group > begin to arrive with no text in the body of the email. > > Instead, all messages are now in a file attachment. > > Am I the only one getting all messages as file attachments? > > I find it difficult to believe nobody else has commented on this as it makes > reading messages much less convenient. > > > > > Best regards, > > Rick > http://www.stereomanuals.com > > From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Jan 2 11:54:35 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (wheijke via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2016 11:54:35 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Why are group messages are now file attachments In-Reply-To: References: <767805AC-6C1F-4EEE-AFA6-DC0A1BEAB77A@amb.org> <147101304.5606501.1451695018295.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8abdb0d8821592c653b1f66c9041adf1@xs4all.nl> Yes, made a changes to fight DMARC anti spam measures many providers took and affect harmless things like naktalk. Let's hope the current setting is fine for all. Wouter On 2016-01-02 03:03 AM, Ti Kan via Naktalk wrote: > Maybe it has something to do with the sender. My email to the group > came back with plain text now, and so did yours. Or maybe Wouter made > a change? > > -Ti > -- > Sent from my commlock > > On Jan 1, 2016, at 4:36 PM, Bob Naylor wrote: > >> I'm confused. All my Nak-talk e-mail has the text in the body of the >> msg. I do not have to open any attachments to read them. Am I >> missing something? >> BobN >> >> ------------------------- >> FROM: Ti Kan via Naktalk >> TO: naktalk at naks.com >> SENT: Friday, January 1, 2016 3:19 PM >> SUBJECT: Re: [naktalk] Why are group messages are now file >> attachments >> >> Same here. Not only that, the attachment is in html. I use a >> plain-text mail reader and it's impossible to decipher the contents. >> If the mail is going to be s multipart MIME message, then the first >> part should be plain-text. The second part can be html, for those >> using html-capable Mail readers. >> >> -Ti >> -- >> Sent from my commlock >> >>> On Jan 1, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Rick at StereoManuals.com [1] via >> Naktalk wrote: >>> >>> >>> >> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com [2] >>> >> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >>> Maintain your account here: >> http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> >>> >> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com [2] >> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: >> http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://stereomanuals.com > [2] http://wiki.naks.com/ > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: > http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Jan 2 15:18:06 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Thomas R via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 09:18:06 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Why are group messages are now file attachments In-Reply-To: <8abdb0d8821592c653b1f66c9041adf1@xs4all.nl> References: <767805AC-6C1F-4EEE-AFA6-DC0A1BEAB77A@amb.org> <147101304.5606501.1451695018295.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <8abdb0d8821592c653b1f66c9041adf1@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: I'm getting text now ! It's working . Thank you Wouter . thomas.. On Saturday, January 2, 2016, wheijke via Naktalk wrote: > Yes, made a changes to fight DMARC anti spam measures many providers took > and affect harmless things like naktalk. > Let's hope the current setting is fine for all. > > Wouter > >> >> >>> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is where i messed up.  In the service manual that can be obtained here http://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/nakamichi/rx-202.shtml on page 14 shows the assembly i will be reffering too. What i did was raise the motor holder assembly (E01) away from the Main chassis assembly (E03), thus separating the PM gear (E01-01) from the Main gear (E03-02). This got rotated and now i can't seem to get them realigned properly. I realize it was foolish to do this without marking them. does anyone have any advice on how to get these back together properly? trial and error has not been all that helpful.  Jason -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Jan 5 00:16:17 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (N.van.wijnen@ziggo.nl via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 00:16:17 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] need help aligning gears on a rx-202 In-Reply-To: <316166985.8277.1451946343309.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <316166985.8277.1451946343309.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <316166985.8277.1451946343309.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8AA5C305-F98F-4CDE-8EE5-B79679BAD96F@ziggo.nl> Hi Jason, There are some markers on the gear . I remember there is a manual for this alignment. I will look for it. Best regards Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 4 jan. 2016 om 23:25 heeft Jason M. via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: > > > So i purchased an RX-202 off of ebay for about 100$ in "working condition", initially i opened it up to free the eject button that was stuck on (damaged during shipping) Once i got that sorted i found that the mechanism that ejects and flips the tape was super sluggish. I have worked on old turntables before and I know that the grease used back then can thicken and turn almost the consistency of glue over time. Thinking this the case i dug a little deeper. This is where i messed up. > > In the service manual that can be obtained here http://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/nakamichi/rx-202.shtml on page 14 shows the assembly i will be reffering too. > > What i did was raise the motor holder assembly (E01) away from the Main chassis assembly (E03), thus separating the PM gear (E01-01) from the Main gear (E03-02). This got rotated and now i can't seem to get them realigned properly. > > I realize it was foolish to do this without marking them. > > does anyone have any advice on how to get these back together properly? trial and error has not been all that helpful. > > > > Jason > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Jan 5 00:20:29 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (N.van.wijnen@ziggo.nl via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 00:20:29 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] need help aligning gears on a rx-202 In-Reply-To: <8AA5C305-F98F-4CDE-8EE5-B79679BAD96F@ziggo.nl> References: <316166985.8277.1451946343309.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <316166985.8277.1451946343309.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <8AA5C305-F98F-4CDE-8EE5-B79679BAD96F@ziggo.nl> Message-ID: <0F798035-3ACD-47C7-B745-CD485F65E716@ziggo.nl> http://download.naks.com/servicebulletins/OOD-SI-3112_gear_positioning_of_auto_reverse_mechanism.pdf Hi Jason, Dowload this one Best regards Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 5 jan. 2016 om 00:16 heeft N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: > > Hi Jason, > There are some markers on the gear . I remember there is a manual for this alignment. > I will look for it. > Best regards > Norman > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > >> Op 4 jan. 2016 om 23:25 heeft Jason M. via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: >> >> >> So i purchased an RX-202 off of ebay for about 100$ in "working condition", initially i opened it up to free the eject button that was stuck on (damaged during shipping) Once i got that sorted i found that the mechanism that ejects and flips the tape was super sluggish. I have worked on old turntables before and I know that the grease used back then can thicken and turn almost the consistency of glue over time. Thinking this the case i dug a little deeper. This is where i messed up. >> >> In the service manual that can be obtained here http://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/nakamichi/rx-202.shtml on page 14 shows the assembly i will be reffering too. >> >> What i did was raise the motor holder assembly (E01) away from the Main chassis assembly (E03), thus separating the PM gear (E01-01) from the Main gear (E03-02). This got rotated and now i can't seem to get them realigned properly. >> >> I realize it was foolish to do this without marking them. >> >> does anyone have any advice on how to get these back together properly? trial and error has not been all that helpful. >> >> >> >> Jason >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Jan 5 00:46:29 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Willy Hermann via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 15:46:29 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] need help aligning gears on a rx-202 In-Reply-To: <316166985.8277.1451946343309.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <316166985.8277.1451946343309.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <316166985.8277.1451946343309.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The gears are marked - it's an embossing in the white plastic which is very difficult to see but there. I would recommend removing the gear attached to the motor platform so you can see it clearly, then mark it and its mate with a thin black line. This should make reassembly fairly easy. Willy ​ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Nyle Hawrylyshen From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Jan 5 02:14:45 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Jason M. via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 01:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] need help aligning gears on a rx-202 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2006173490.63673.1451956485492.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> wow thanks a heap Jason On Monday, January 4, 2016 5:46 PM, Willy Hermann wrote: The gears are marked - it's an embossing in the white plastic which is very difficult to see but there.  I would recommend removing the gear attached to the motor platform so you can see it clearly, then mark it and its mate with a thin black line.  This should make reassembly fairly easy.Willy​ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Anyone want > it for the cost of shipping? > Willy > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Jan 5 08:54:25 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Gerhard Wartha via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 08:54:25 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon sequeal Message-ID: <1FCE1161-C21B-4A9D-BC67-69663B2D6A2B@gmail.com> Hi, First listen closely where the sequel comes from. to 99% is is the Idler wheel rubber. You can clean it with some distillates water, And with some pinch roller rubber cleaner. take care, the idler wheel assemble is sensitive. That will help. for a wile. Better than replaceing the Idler rubber . Gerhard From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jan 8 06:12:08 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (FRANCIS via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 05:12:08 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Sony metal tape for sale Message-ID: For sale; unopened package of 5 Sony metal SR 100, made in japan $50 plus shipping from 85711 zip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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A week ago tried with a new unused cassette ,but it was difficult to get the middle red light and the record/bias levels correctly. During these attempts I found that the transistors Q401 Q404 and Q410 become very hot. So I bought cheap from Ebay and replaced all of them but nothing happened. I found out that those transistors get hot faster when I try to perform testing of the cassette record/bias levels , than the time I just play the cassette…. Why are these transistors getting so hot? Where to start checking? Can you guys help me with this issue , because my lack of experience make me only scratch my head and sleep difficult . Thanks for this internet site and all of you can help me. Regards. Vesselin Sent from Windows Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Jan 26 18:03:44 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:03:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX7 In-Reply-To: <810405.56664.bm@smtp217.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <810405.56664.bm@smtp217.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <473229360.452988.1453827824696.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Does the service manual give the voltages on those transistors? If so, are they correct?Bob N From: via Naktalk To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:28 PM Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX7 Hi everybody,It is me again. Replaced the belts of my Nakamichi, as you guys advised me and the problems with mudded sound and slowing down of cassette play were solved. The play back now is very good .Now I have problem with adjusting of record and bias levels. A week ago tried with a new unused cassette ,but it was difficult to get the middle red light and the record/bias levels correctly. During these attempts I found that the transistors Q401 Q404 and Q410 become very hot.So I bought cheap  from Ebay and replaced all of them but nothing happened.I found out that those transistors get hot faster when I try to perform testing of the cassette record/bias levels , than the time I just play the cassette…. Why are these transistors getting so hot?   Where to start checking?Can you guys help me with this issue , because my lack of experience make me only scratch my head and sleep difficult .Thanks for this internet site and all of you can help me.Regards.Vesselin Sent from Windows Mail ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jan 27 18:29:15 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?b?Sm95LUVsbCAmIFJhaW5lcg==?= via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 11:29:15 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX7 In-Reply-To: <473229360.452988.1453827824696.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <810405.56664.bm@smtp217.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <473229360.452988.1453827824696.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20160127112915.pown0bis08k084ss@webmail.sasktel.net> I'm not sure which transistors those are, but you might want to check the surrounding capacitors.    Cheers, Rainer On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:03:44 +0000 (UTC), Bob Naylor via Naktalk wrote: Does the service manual give the voltages on those transistors? If so, are they correct? Bob N   ------------------------- Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX7 Hi everybody, It is me again. Replaced the belts of my Nakamichi, as you guys advised me and the problems with mudded sound and slowing down of cassette play were solved. The play back now is very good . Now I have problem with adjusting of record and bias levels. A week ago tried with a new unused cassette ,but it was difficult to get the middle red light and the record/bias levels correctly. During these attempts I found that the transistors Q401 Q404 and Q410 become very hot. So I bought cheap  from Ebay and replaced all of them but nothing happened. I found out that those transistors get hot faster when I try to perform testing of the cassette record/bias levels , than the time I just play the cassette…. Why are these transistors getting so hot?   Where to start checking? Can you guys help me with this issue , because my lack of experience make me only scratch my head and sleep difficult . Thanks for this internet site and all of you can help me. Regards. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jan 27 20:13:39 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Umesh R via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 00:43:39 +0530 Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX7 In-Reply-To: <473229360.452988.1453827824696.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <810405.56664.bm@smtp217.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <473229360.452988.1453827824696.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi, The are you getting the voltages around these transistors correct as per the service manual? If not, the zener diodes and electrolytic capacitors in this area have to be checked. Sometimes the 4558 opamp also could cause trouble. Also check the tone oscillators in the source mode to see if they are steady. Please update your findings. Regards, Umesh Does the service manual give the voltages on those transistors? If so, are they correct? Bob N ------------------------------ *From:* via Naktalk *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks *Sent:* Monday, January 25, 2016 1:28 PM *Subject:* [naktalk] Nak ZX7 Hi everybody, It is me again. Replaced the belts of my Nakamichi, as you guys advised me and the problems with mudded sound and slowing down of cassette play were solved. The play back now is very good . Now I have problem with adjusting of record and bias levels. A week ago tried with a new unused cassette ,but it was difficult to get the middle red light and the record/bias levels correctly. During these attempts I found that the transistors Q401 Q404 and Q410 become very hot. So I bought cheap from Ebay and replaced all of them but nothing happened. I found out that those transistors get hot faster when I try to perform testing of the cassette record/bias levels , than the time I just play the cassette…. Why are these transistors getting so hot? Where to start checking? Can you guys help me with this issue , because my lack of experience make me only scratch my head and sleep difficult . Thanks for this internet site and all of you can help me. Regards. Vesselin Sent from Windows Mail ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jan 27 20:24:32 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 19:24:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX7 In-Reply-To: <20160127112915.pown0bis08k084ss@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <20160127112915.pown0bis08k084ss@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: <1439589663.1082094.1453922672239.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Vesselin, I have the same problem since I work a lot of hours per week. I do have the service manual that I can e-mail you if you need it, it's about 15 meg. I'm at work today but will look at the service manual if I get a chance and maybe give you an opinion. Keep in mind I am not a tech, just a hobby. Are those transistors on the heat sink the "TO-220" type? I have an amplifier that has the TO-220's on heat sinks and they run about 170 degrees Fahrenheit after being on for a while and they have been there for 30 years.  I have a ZX-7 so I've very interested in what you find. It is my best Nak! Bob From: Joy-Ell & Rainer via Naktalk To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak ZX7 #yiv9741376479 p{margin:0;padding:0;}I'm not sure which transistors those are, but you might want to check thesurrounding capacitors.  Cheers,Rainer On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:03:44 +0000 (UTC), Bob Naylor viaNaktalk wrote: Does the service manual give thevoltages on those transistors? If so, are they correct?Bob N  From: via Naktalk To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:28 PM Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX7 Hi everybody,It is me again. Replaced the belts of my Nakamichi, as you guys advised meand the problems with mudded sound and slowing down of cassette play weresolved. The play back now is very good .Now I have problem with adjusting ofrecord and bias levels. A week ago tried with a new unused cassette ,but it wasdifficult to get the middle red light and the record/bias levelscorrectly.During these attempts I found that the transistors Q401 Q404 and Q410become very hot.So I bought cheap  from Ebay and replaced all of them but nothinghappened.I found out that those transistors gethot faster when I try to perform testing of the cassette record/bias levels ,than the time I just play the cassette…. Why are these transistors gettingso hot?   Where to start checking?Can you guys help me with this issue ,because my lack of experience make me only scratch my head and sleep difficult.Thanks for this internet site and allof you can help me.Regards.Vesselin  Sent from Windows Mail  ========---------------------------------------------------------=========          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                        Naktalk at lists.naks.commailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jan 27 20:27:01 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 19:27:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Take up Tension gauge In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <564538513.1112904.1453922821923.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> In addition to that, does anyone know what the voltage should be on the reel motor during playback and during FF/REW on the Sankyo transports? I do not have a torque gauge either but a voltage check may get me in the ballpark. Thanks, Bob N From: Karl E. Fitzke via Naktalk To: "naktalk at lists.naks.com" Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 8:59 AM Subject: [naktalk] Take up Tension gauge Hi, everyone.   I have no tension gauge cassette at my new place of employment.  Anybody have any advice on where to acquire one?  May just have to set up the regular "audio cassette tension" search on eBay and hope I find something besides suspenseful books on tape!  Thanks. -Karl Karl Fitzke Audio/Visual Specialist B76 Kroch Library Ithaca, NY 14853 607-255-5521 karl.fitzke at cornell.edu ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jan 27 21:17:06 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Willy Hermann via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 12:17:06 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Nak ZX7 In-Reply-To: <20160127112915.pown0bis08k084ss@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <810405.56664.bm@smtp217.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <473229360.452988.1453827824696.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <20160127112915.pown0bis08k084ss@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: Those three transistors are the voltage regulators for +\- 12v and +5v. They get hot anyway but if they're excessively hot it could be anything in the circuit since pretty much everything powers through them. You'll need to do a better job of narrowing down exactly what works and what doesn't. Willy ​ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jan 27 22:21:31 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?b?Sm95LUVsbCAmIFJhaW5lcg==?= via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 15:21:31 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Take up Tension gauge In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20160127152131.ldsxs6nfkg8kccgw@webmail.sasktel.net> Karl, check E-Pay, they used to show up on there quite regularly.   Cheers, Rainer On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 16:59:16 +0000, "Karl E. Fitzke via Naktalk" wrote: Hi, everyone.     I have no tension gauge cassette at my new place of employment.  Anybody have any advice on where to acquire one?    May just have to set up the regular "audio cassette tension" search on eBay and hope I find something besides suspenseful books on tape!  Thanks.   -Karl   Karl Fitzke Audio/Visual Specialist B76 Kroch Library Ithaca, NY 14853 607-255-5521 karl.fitzke at cornell.edu ------------------------- ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jan 29 22:42:55 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ron via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 21:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Take up Tension gauge In-Reply-To: <564538513.1112904.1453922821923.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <564538513.1112904.1453922821923.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1630508218.2534528.1454103775751.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >From (dim) memory: During FF/REW expect 8V - 11Vm depending on how full the takeup hub is and friction within the cassette shell. During PB, expect about 2.5V - 4V. Obviously, voltage is not a good parameter to adjust for correct PB torque. In a pinch, I would play a C120 cassette just before the end, find the adjustment point where the cassette tends to stall (trial and error) and then set the pot (VR601 ???) about 1/8 turn or so beyond that point. This should provide reliable PB takeup torque. -- Ron From: Bob Naylor via Naktalk To: Karl E. Fitzke ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Take up Tension gauge In addition to that, does anyone know what the voltage should be on the reel motor during playback and during FF/REW on the Sankyo transports? I do not have a torque gauge either but a voltage check may get me in the ballpark. Thanks, Bob N From: Karl E. Fitzke via Naktalk To: "naktalk at lists.naks.com" Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 8:59 AM Subject: [naktalk] Take up Tension gauge #yiv2309871973 #yiv2309871973 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv2309871973 Hi, everyone.   I have no tension gauge cassette at my new place of employment.  Anybody have any advice on where to acquire one?  May just have to set up the regular "audio cassette tension" search on eBay and hope I find something besides suspenseful books on tape!  Thanks. -Karl Karl Fitzke Audio/Visual Specialist B76 Kroch Library Ithaca, NY 14853 607-255-5521 karl.fitzke at cornell.edu ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jan 29 22:42:55 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ron via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 21:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Take up Tension gauge In-Reply-To: <564538513.1112904.1453922821923.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <564538513.1112904.1453922821923.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1630508218.2534528.1454103775751.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >From (dim) memory: During FF/REW expect 8V - 11Vm depending on how full the takeup hub is and friction within the cassette shell. During PB, expect about 2.5V - 4V. Obviously, voltage is not a good parameter to adjust for correct PB torque. In a pinch, I would play a C120 cassette just before the end, find the adjustment point where the cassette tends to stall (trial and error) and then set the pot (VR601 ???) about 1/8 turn or so beyond that point. This should provide reliable PB takeup torque. -- Ron From: Bob Naylor via Naktalk To: Karl E. Fitzke ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Take up Tension gauge In addition to that, does anyone know what the voltage should be on the reel motor during playback and during FF/REW on the Sankyo transports? I do not have a torque gauge either but a voltage check may get me in the ballpark. Thanks, Bob N From: Karl E. Fitzke via Naktalk To: "naktalk at lists.naks.com" Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 8:59 AM Subject: [naktalk] Take up Tension gauge #yiv2309871973 #yiv2309871973 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv2309871973 Hi, everyone.   I have no tension gauge cassette at my new place of employment.  Anybody have any advice on where to acquire one?  May just have to set up the regular "audio cassette tension" search on eBay and hope I find something besides suspenseful books on tape!  Thanks. -Karl Karl Fitzke Audio/Visual Specialist B76 Kroch Library Ithaca, NY 14853 607-255-5521 karl.fitzke at cornell.edu ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jan 31 05:29:05 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?b?Sm95LUVsbCAmIFJhaW5lcg==?= via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 22:29:05 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Tilt gauge update In-Reply-To: <20151117161422.r075a797sogowwo0@webmail.sasktel.net> References: <20151117161422.r075a797sogowwo0@webmail.sasktel.net> Message-ID: <20160130222905.nhgzzai2g0kgo0ck@webmail.sasktel.net> Thank-you Naktalkers for the interest in my tilt gauge :)  I have ordered and recieved most of the materias needed to make a revision 2 version of the tilt gauge :) I apologize that I don't have a lot of time right now to procede with the manufacture of the rev 2 version of the gauge but it is not forgotten and I will do my best to get it out to the people that expressed interest as soon as I can.   Thanks :) Rainer S.     aka (80stech)    Tue, 17 Nov 2015 16:14:22 -0600, Joy-Ell & Rainer wrote: OK, seems like there is some interest so will order some materials and make a batch. Won't be until well into the new year though as I have a special needs son who is keeping me very busy lately.  Just to be clear though this is NOT a copy of the Nak gauge, I have never seen one except for in pictures. This is my own design and is fairly simple but also very effective and accurate. BTW did anyone ever come up with a copy of the Nak tilt gauge ?? Cheers, Rainer   ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2016\2016-July.txt.txt ************************************************************************ From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jul 7 15:59:40 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (earthrite via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 14:59:40 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk Digest, Vol 159, Issue 10 Message-ID: Hello again The youngest deck CD1 has the classic Sankyo issue of no play. The dismantle approach is a step to far. Is it only B&W in the UK now Or shall I try the contact cleaner approach Best from Scotland Ian R From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Jul 12 18:07:35 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 16:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] What to look for when considering a 700ZXL In-Reply-To: <1559646670.31640964.1468339300424.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2104248652.31647008.1468339655527.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Hello, I am brand new to the Naks mailing list. I have an opportunity to purchase a 700ZXL locally. I am going to take a look at it tomorrow and wondered if anyone on this list had some tips on what to test and look for? I am not a Nakamichi expert by any means and really not a tape aficionado but I can't resist the styling and reputation of this model. I know it is very expensive to have these worked on so I was wondering what functional issues should be a deal breaker? Any input would be appreciated. Thanks, Roger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Jul 19 21:13:47 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Norman van Wijnen via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 21:13:47 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi dragon cassette door Message-ID: Hi all, Is there someone with a spare Dragon with a cassette door for sale? Best regards, Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jul 20 19:43:59 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:43:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] 700zxl decision Message-ID: <609444320.37496705.1469036639900.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jul 21 21:02:38 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Garner, Scott H via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 19:02:38 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] EXTERNAL: resistor value of detector pcb 1000ZXL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Norman, For that resistor it doesn’t matter if it’s 10k or 47k, the performance of the loss less regulator will be the same. Make them all 10k and you will be fine. Also make R109 and R209 10k. Scott From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Norman van Wijnen via Naktalk Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 2:33 PM To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] resistor value of detector pcb 1000ZXL Hi all, i have a little problem with a detector pcb of the 1000 zxl . I am working on building a clone of the original board . That board is for my second 1000zxl which is missing that detector pcb. The schema of that board tell us that resistor R105 and R205 have a value of 10K. Checking my original board R105 is indeed 10K but R205 has a value of 47K. Is there anybody with a detector pcb who can look what value is on that one? Thanks Norman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Jul 30 19:42:36 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Glenn Atchison via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 18:42:36 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E azimuth adjustment Message-ID: <8B23EC54-3328-4A70-8DC7-E3D95737F559@ntlworld.com> Hi there. I’ve just acquired a CR-7 from the estate of a good friend, and everything seems to be working fine except the cassette backlight. The only thing I don’t understand is the display when the deck is playing one of my old recordings and it adjusts the azimuth. I understand the principle of azimuth adjustment okay but what is the display showing? The level meters disappear, a single line appears on the left channel of about five or six bars and there is a red pointer in the centre of the scale. Should the line move towards the pointer? It only ever extends to about a quarter of the whole length of the scale, i.e. halfway between zero and the red pointer. I can hear the adjustment taking place on the head so it must be working but is it working properly? Also, what exactly does the playback azimuth knob do? Turning it seems to have a random effect - sometimes nothing happens, sometimes the line appears and fills the scale, other times it drops back to zero. The movement seems to be totally independent of the position of the knob. Hope that makes sense. The deck is fabulous by the way. I’ve owned a CR-2 for years but had pretty much given up on cassettes. This is a different league! Many thanks Glenn Atchison From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jul 31 18:34:42 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Willy Hermann via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 09:34:42 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E azimuth adjustment In-Reply-To: <8B23EC54-3328-4A70-8DC7-E3D95737F559@ntlworld.com> References: <8B23EC54-3328-4A70-8DC7-E3D95737F559@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: The azimuth adjustment in play is not automatic. The knob allows you to adjust the play head azimuth and gives you the line scale on the top display bar just for a reference as to where it is. The center red arrow indicates that you've returned the azimuth adjustment to standard. Adjust it manually for maximum high frequency. The only time the azimuth display is active is when the deck is in play mode and the azimuth knob is being turned (or the azimuth buttons on the remote control are being used). The potentiometer for adjusting azimuth is prone to fouling and will cause intermittent activation of the azimuth motor. As you turn the pot from stop to stop in play mode the bar should display smoothly from far left to far right and you should be able to hear the motor running. If you take the outer cassette door off and activate the azimuth knob you should be able to see the metal rocker to the lower right of the transport pivot back and forth a few degrees. The only automatic activation of play head azimuth is when the deck is auto-calibration for record. Hope this explanation helps. Willy ​ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Jul 31 18:52:12 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (russellstorey via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 02:52:12 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E azimuth adjustment In-Reply-To: <8B23EC54-3328-4A70-8DC7-E3D95737F559@ntlworld.com> References: <8B23EC54-3328-4A70-8DC7-E3D95737F559@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <007401d1eb4b$e81686c0$b8439440$@com.au> Hi Glen NAKAMICHI CR-7E azimuth adjustment Basically adjusting the playback azimuth control ( adjusts the azimuth angle ) of the Playback head .. +/- 0 degs . Adjusting the Playback azimuth knob will enable the best ( overall sound quality ( and treble ) from the tape . Assuming """ , the deck has been calibrated properly according to the Service manual Some tapes the best sound may be with Playback azimuth " control knob " located at 3 o'clock other tapes .. 9 o'clock .. .. 12 o'clock (being the ) standard ref position A single line Vu ( bar) - indicting playback azimuth is "normal " when adjusting the Playback azimuth " control knob " and soon as you stop moving the "knob " the display resorts back to the standard Left & Right - VU display The single line Vu (LED bar) is purely a " visual indicator " of where you have the Playback azimuth " control knob set to ( its location) " left " ref " ref-12 o'clock Centre " or right The single line Vu ( LED bar) should follow the knob " left ( min LED bars ) through " ref-12 o'clock physical - Centre of VU display - ) " the far right ( max -LED bars ) of VU display If it's not doing this smoothy ( following the Knob) then this is an ( issue/ fault ) in the playback azimuth ( logic and or / motor and or the azimuth electrical calibration is not set properly according to the Service manual . FMI , are you located in Sydney Australia Kind Regards Russell Storey Stones Sound Studio (Australia) Audio & Acoustic Consultant Engineers http://www.stonessoundstudio.com.au/ http://www.stonessoundstudio.com.au/stone/Nakamichi/nakamichi.htm phone : 02 66793059 -----Original Message----- From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Atchison via Naktalk Sent: Sunday, 31 July 2016 3:43 AM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] CR-7E azimuth adjustment Hi there. I’ve just acquired a CR-7 from the estate of a good friend, and everything seems to be working fine except the cassette backlight. The only thing I don’t understand is the display when the deck is playing one of my old recordings and it adjusts the azimuth. I understand the principle of azimuth adjustment okay but what is the display showing? The level meters disappear, a single line appears on the left channel of about five or six bars and there is a red pointer in the centre of the scale. Should the line move towards the pointer? It only ever extends to about a quarter of the whole length of the scale, i.e. halfway between zero and the red pointer. I can hear the adjustment taking place on the head so it must be working but is it working properly? Also, what exactly does the playback azimuth knob do? Turning it seems to have a random effect - sometimes nothing happens, sometimes the line appears and fills the scale, other times it drops back to zero. The movement seems to be totally independent of the position of the knob. Hope that makes sense. The deck is fabulous by the way. I’ve owned a CR-2 for years but had pretty much given up on cassettes. This is a different league! 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7690 / Virus Database: 4627/12719 - Release Date: 07/31/16 g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2016\2016-June.txt.txt ************************************************************************ From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jun 1 10:04:30 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Martin Short via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:04:30 +1200 Subject: [naktalk] 580 References: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: Hi Wouter, For what it is worth :) >From my service manual, Nakamichi state: Serial numbers A30101001 to A30110100 are early machines. RP-53 Head (a PP lifter is listed in the parts schedule) and E-55 erase head sitting nestled in the supply pinch roller arm, similar to the 1000's. Also, these decks have different, non height adjustable take up roller assembly with no tape guide. (My rough copy of the an early sales brochure seems to indicate no pad lifter, and specifically identifes ithe RP head as the crystalloy head lifter straight out of the 600II.) Serial number A30110101onwards are later type, RP-8L Head (with PP lifter) and E-8L erase head. Transport looks the same as found in your typical Classic deck, ie: cast alloy pinch rollers arms. FWIW: I have representatives of both these configurations, so that fits with the service manual descriptions. The pad lifter on my late 580 deck is also goldish in colour. The RP-8L head is also quite petite vs the later RP-9E found in the single head 480's and LX-3. Now to confound things, I also have another 580 that sits almost mid block with the first serial number range, so technically an early deck. This deck has the RP-53 head, (no lifter), E-8L erase head, cast alloy supply pinch roller with guide, and the early fixed height take up pinch roller with no guide, half way between the two!. The machine is in excellent original condition and doesn't seem to have been monkey'd with, which in turn seem to indicate that Nakamichi were as good as British Leyland at doing running changes as new parts became available, and not telling anyone!. cheers, Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wouter Heijke via Naktalk" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 7:40 AM Subject: [naktalk] 580 > Hey All, > > I recently became the owner of a 580, so not the 580M. > For long the website list this deck as having NO pressure pad lifter and > having NO (manual) bias calibration. > I soon found that it does have manual bias calibration, it does lack the > 15khz tone generator, sadly... > Now I also see mine has a pressure pad lifter, it seems from a 1000zxl ltd > because of its goldish color! > > Does anyone else have a 580? Can you check if yours has the pad lifter? > I remember making this specific change once to the website because someone > pointed this 'error' out to me, but I now wonder if mine has a pad lifter > installed after it left the factory or they all have it? > > Wouter > > > > From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jun 1 10:04:30 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Martin Short via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:04:30 +1200 Subject: [naktalk] 580 References: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: Hi Wouter, For what it is worth :) >From my service manual, Nakamichi state: Serial numbers A30101001 to A30110100 are early machines. RP-53 Head (a PP lifter is listed in the parts schedule) and E-55 erase head sitting nestled in the supply pinch roller arm, similar to the 1000's. Also, these decks have different, non height adjustable take up roller assembly with no tape guide. (My rough copy of the an early sales brochure seems to indicate no pad lifter, and specifically identifes ithe RP head as the crystalloy head lifter straight out of the 600II.) Serial number A30110101onwards are later type, RP-8L Head (with PP lifter) and E-8L erase head. Transport looks the same as found in your typical Classic deck, ie: cast alloy pinch rollers arms. FWIW: I have representatives of both these configurations, so that fits with the service manual descriptions. The pad lifter on my late 580 deck is also goldish in colour. The RP-8L head is also quite petite vs the later RP-9E found in the single head 480's and LX-3. Now to confound things, I also have another 580 that sits almost mid block with the first serial number range, so technically an early deck. This deck has the RP-53 head, (no lifter), E-8L erase head, cast alloy supply pinch roller with guide, and the early fixed height take up pinch roller with no guide, half way between the two!. The machine is in excellent original condition and doesn't seem to have been monkey'd with, which in turn seem to indicate that Nakamichi were as good as British Leyland at doing running changes as new parts became available, and not telling anyone!. cheers, Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wouter Heijke via Naktalk" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 7:40 AM Subject: [naktalk] 580 > Hey All, > > I recently became the owner of a 580, so not the 580M. > For long the website list this deck as having NO pressure pad lifter and > having NO (manual) bias calibration. > I soon found that it does have manual bias calibration, it does lack the > 15khz tone generator, sadly... > Now I also see mine has a pressure pad lifter, it seems from a 1000zxl ltd > because of its goldish color! > > Does anyone else have a 580? Can you check if yours has the pad lifter? > I remember making this specific change once to the website because someone > pointed this 'error' out to me, but I now wonder if mine has a pad lifter > installed after it left the factory or they all have it? > > Wouter > > > > From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jun 1 16:29:05 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tim Rusling via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] 580 In-Reply-To: References: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <829832068.3166561.1464791345736.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I think we've all been able to see how good it is to tie in with the best people in the world - the Naksfans.Tim Rusling Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Martin Short via Naktalk wrote: Hi Wouter, For what it is worth :) >From my service manual, Nakamichi state: Serial numbers A30101001 to A30110100 are early machines. RP-53 Head (a PP lifter is listed in the parts schedule) and E-55 erase head sitting nestled in the supply pinch roller arm, similar to the 1000's. Also,  these decks have different, non height adjustable take up roller assembly  with no tape guide. (My rough copy of the an early sales brochure seems to indicate no pad lifter, and specifically identifes ithe  RP head as the crystalloy head lifter straight out of the 600II.) Serial number  A30110101onwards are later type, RP-8L Head (with PP lifter) and E-8L erase head. Transport looks the same as found in your typical Classic deck,  ie: cast alloy pinch rollers arms. FWIW: I have representatives of both these configurations, so that fits with the service manual descriptions. The pad lifter on my late 580 deck is also goldish in colour. The RP-8L head is also quite petite vs the later RP-9E found in the single head 480's and LX-3. Now to confound things, I also have another  580  that sits almost mid block with the first serial number range, so technically an early deck. This deck has the RP-53 head, (no lifter), E-8L erase head, cast alloy supply pinch roller with guide, and the early fixed height take up pinch roller with no guide, half way between the two!. The machine is in excellent original condition and doesn't seem to have been monkey'd with, which in turn seem to indicate that Nakamichi were as good as British Leyland at doing running changes as new parts became available, and not telling anyone!. cheers, Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wouter Heijke via Naktalk" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 7:40 AM Subject: [naktalk] 580 > Hey All, > > I recently became the owner of a 580, so not the 580M. > For long the website list this deck as having NO pressure pad lifter and > having NO (manual) bias calibration. > I soon found that it does have manual bias calibration, it does lack the > 15khz tone generator, sadly... > Now I also see mine has a pressure pad lifter, it seems from a 1000zxl ltd > because of its goldish color! > > Does anyone else have a 580? Can you check if yours has the pad lifter? > I remember making this specific change once to the website because someone > pointed this 'error' out to me, but I now wonder if mine has a pad lifter > installed after it left the factory or they all have it? > > Wouter > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jun 2 07:11:18 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (John Gipps via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 15:11:18 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk Digest, Vol 159, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004801d1bc8d$3510f750$9f32e5f0$@aol.com> Hi Wouter I've read with great interest the comments on this topic from you, and Henk, and Martin and am reminded of the introduction of the 580 onto the market in Australia. The 580 was the first of the "classic transport" decks to be received by dealers, and did arrive with a few problems. In particular, it had tape path problems (tape would wander off track with only slight provocation). While the Service Manual shows that both the initial and subsequent versions of the 580 had a pad lifter, this was not actually the case with the first machines received by us. Early customers were supplied machines with no pad lifter. This was subsequently addressed if and when a 580 without a pad lifter came in for service within warranty or outside warranty. We would automatically fit a pad lifter to any 580 we encountered without one, and this greatly helped with tape path problems. So it's definitely the case that in Australia, there are early 580's with and without pad lifters to this day. I don't know what happened in other countries, but possibly a similar situation. The 580 Service Manual (Blue cover, separate sections for initial and subsequent 580s) was issued well after the introduction of the first 580's. With the first 580 arrivals, we were given a few dozen pages of service material, but it wasn't comprehensive or very useful, and doesn't show the head block in detail. So the full Service Manual does show pad lifters on early and subsequent versions. It also shows the different pressure rollers on early and subsequent versions. Early 580's had dissimilar pressure rollers, so both of Henk's 580's presumably have this feature unless they have been updated. Regards John Gipps Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:40:17 +0200 From: Wouter Heijke via Naktalk To: naktalk at naks.come Subject: [naktalk] 580 Message-ID: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf at xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hey All, I recently became the owner of a 580, so not the 580M. For long the website list this deck as having NO pressure pad lifter and having NO (manual) bias calibration. I soon found that it does have manual bias calibration, it does lack the 15khz tone generator, sadly... Now I also see mine has a pressure pad lifter, it seems from a 1000zxl ltd because of its goldish color! Does anyone else have a 580? Can you check if yours has the pad lifter? I remember making this specific change once to the website because someone pointed this 'error' out to me, but I now wonder if mine has a pad lifter installed after it left the factory or they all have it? Wouter From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jun 2 09:03:36 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (John Gipps via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 17:03:36 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] FW: Naktalk Digest, Vol 159, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <004801d1bc8d$3510f750$9f32e5f0$@aol.com> References: <004801d1bc8d$3510f750$9f32e5f0$@aol.com> Message-ID: <006201d1bc9c$e48f6d60$adae4820$@aol.com> Hi All Just found a little more information re the N580 pad lifter - see document attached Nakamichi Service Doc 0087.dpf. The document attached is dated 28 February 1979 and is the first page of a Nakamichi Service Bulletin 00D-M-0087. It states that pad lifters were fitted to the N580 starting with S/N A301 08051. This seems to fit Henk's two decks - one without pad lifter 07239, and one with pad lifter 08733. In case those of you who remove pad lifters for head cleaning purposes haven't noticed, pad lifters are not symmetrical, and there is a correct orientation. The two angled tabs go to the rear of the head - the non-angled tabs go to the front. I do recommend removing pad lifters for head cleaning - you can do a much better job of cleaning - you've just got to put the pad lifter back on the right way around☺ Regards John Gipps -----Original Message----- From: John Gipps [mailto:JohnGipps at aol.com] Sent: Thursday, 2 June 2016 3:11 PM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com; naktalk-request at lists.naks.com Cc: JohnGipps at aol.com Subject: RE: Naktalk Digest, Vol 159, Issue 1 Hi Wouter I've read with great interest the comments on this topic from you, and Henk, and Martin and am reminded of the introduction of the 580 onto the market in Australia. The 580 was the first of the "classic transport" decks to be received by dealers, and did arrive with a few problems. In particular, it had tape path problems (tape would wander off track with only slight provocation). While the Service Manual shows that both the initial and subsequent versions of the 580 had a pad lifter, this was not actually the case with the first machines received by us. Early customers were supplied machines with no pad lifter. This was subsequently addressed if and when a 580 without a pad lifter came in for service within warranty or outside warranty. We would automatically fit a pad lifter to any 580 we encountered without one, and this greatly helped with tape path problems. So it's definitely the case that in Australia, there are early 580's with and without pad lifters to this day. I don't know what happened in other countries, but possibly a similar situation. The 580 Service Manual (Blue cover, separate sections for initial and subsequent 580s) was issued well after the introduction of the first 580's. With the first 580 arrivals, we were given a few dozen pages of service material, but it wasn't comprehensive or very useful, and doesn't show the head block in detail. So the full Service Manual does show pad lifters on early and subsequent versions. It also shows the different pressure rollers on early and subsequent versions. Early 580's had dissimilar pressure rollers, so both of Henk's 580's presumably have this feature unless they have been updated. Regards John Gipps Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:40:17 +0200 From: Wouter Heijke via Naktalk To: naktalk at naks.come Subject: [naktalk] 580 Message-ID: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf at xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hey All, I recently became the owner of a 580, so not the 580M. For long the website list this deck as having NO pressure pad lifter and having NO (manual) bias calibration. I soon found that it does have manual bias calibration, it does lack the 15khz tone generator, sadly... Now I also see mine has a pressure pad lifter, it seems from a 1000zxl ltd because of its goldish color! Does anyone else have a 580? Can you check if yours has the pad lifter? I remember making this specific change once to the website because someone pointed this 'error' out to me, but I now wonder if mine has a pad lifter installed after it left the factory or they all have it? Wouter -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Nakamichi Service Doc 0087.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 740947 bytes Desc: not available URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jun 2 09:28:07 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Wouter Heijke via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 09:28:07 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] 580 In-Reply-To: <006201d1bc9c$e48f6d60$adae4820$@aol.com> References: <004801d1bc8d$3510f750$9f32e5f0$@aol.com> <006201d1bc9c$e48f6d60$adae4820$@aol.com> Message-ID: <01e270edfd2cc887cef0ea448afd37ab@xs4all.nl> Hi John, Thank you for these wonderful additions to this story of what seems to be an exciting deck! I never bothered about it, until found this one not far from where I live and it's story is basically that of the first classic mech. deck where all the initial problems where ironed out. Mine seems to be a little newer then Henk's, so it explains the pad-lifter. I also noticed the 'weird' pressure rollers, for a moment i thought the deck was butchered! Also at first I missed the erase head! I totally overlooked it, what is there looked like the regular tape guide! Reading the description revealed the head and the SM did the rest. Wouter On 2016-06-02 09:03 AM, John Gipps via Naktalk wrote: > Hi All > > Just found a little more information re the N580 pad lifter - see > document attached Nakamichi Service Doc 0087.dpf. > > The document attached is dated 28 February 1979 and is the first page > of a Nakamichi Service Bulletin 00D-M-0087. It states that pad lifters > were fitted to the N580 starting with S/N A301 08051. This seems to > fit Henk's two decks - one without pad lifter 07239, and one with pad > lifter 08733. > > In case those of you who remove pad lifters for head cleaning purposes > haven't noticed, pad lifters are not symmetrical, and there is a > correct orientation. The two angled tabs go to the rear of the head - > the > non-angled tabs go to the front. I do recommend removing pad lifters > for head cleaning - you can do a much better job of cleaning - you've > just got to put the pad lifter back on the right way around☺ > > Regards > > John Gipps > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Gipps [mailto:JohnGipps at aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, 2 June 2016 3:11 PM > To: naktalk at lists.naks.com; naktalk-request at lists.naks.com > Cc: JohnGipps at aol.com > Subject: RE: Naktalk Digest, Vol 159, Issue 1 > > Hi Wouter > > I've read with great interest the comments on this topic from you, and > Henk, and Martin and am reminded of the introduction of the 580 onto > the market in Australia. The 580 was the first of the "classic > transport" decks to be received by dealers, and did arrive with a few > problems. In particular, it had tape path problems (tape would wander > off track with only slight provocation). While the Service Manual > shows that both the initial and subsequent versions of the 580 had a > pad lifter, this was not actually the case with the first machines > received by us. Early customers were supplied machines with no pad > lifter. This was subsequently addressed if and when a 580 without a > pad lifter came in for service within warranty or outside warranty. We > would automatically fit a pad lifter to any 580 we encountered without > one, and this greatly helped with tape path problems. So it's > definitely the case that in Australia, there are early 580's with and > without pad lifters to this day. I don't know what happened in other > countries, but possibly a similar situation. > > The 580 Service Manual (Blue cover, separate sections for initial and > subsequent 580s) was issued well after the introduction of the first > 580's. With the first 580 arrivals, we were given a few dozen pages of > service material, but it wasn't comprehensive or very useful, and > doesn't show the head block in detail. So the full Service Manual > does show pad lifters on early and subsequent versions. It also shows > the different pressure rollers on early and subsequent versions. Early > 580's had dissimilar pressure rollers, so both of Henk's 580's > presumably have this feature unless they have been updated. > > Regards > > John Gipps > > > > Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:40:17 +0200 > From: Wouter Heijke via Naktalk > To: naktalk at naks.come > Subject: [naktalk] 580 > Message-ID: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf at xs4all.nl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Hey All, > > I recently became the owner of a 580, so not the 580M. > For long the website list this deck as having NO pressure pad lifter > and having NO (manual) bias calibration. > I soon found that it does have manual bias calibration, it does lack > the 15khz tone generator, sadly... > Now I also see mine has a pressure pad lifter, it seems from a 1000zxl > ltd because of its goldish color! > > Does anyone else have a 580? Can you check if yours has the pad lifter? > I remember making this specific change once to the website because > someone pointed this 'error' out to me, but I now wonder if mine has a > pad lifter installed after it left the factory or they all have it? > > Wouter From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jun 2 23:18:27 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 21:18:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] 58X series pad lofters Message-ID: <1727391885.14673197.1464902307425.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Jun 2 23:54:58 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?b?Sm95LUVsbCAmIFJhaW5lcg==?= via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2016 15:54:58 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] 58X series pad lofters In-Reply-To: <1727391885.14673197.1464902307425.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <1727391885.14673197.1464902307425.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20160602155458.swe8odegaskk0gwg@webmail.sasktel.net> I actually need a pad lifter for my Dragon if anyone has a spare. :)   Cheers, Rainer On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 21:18:27 +0000 (UTC), via Naktalk wrote: I have quite few 58x series decks and many have gold tone lifters. I Wondered about that too. Typically, I have removed them and replaced with standard lifters. I put the gold tone ones on favorite decks like my ZX-9s and Dragons that have gold lettering. 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However when I press the play button, the head carriage raises for a few seconds and then drops back down.  Cassette does not play.  I opened the case and found that the main cassette spindle motor does not rotate at all. Appreciate if you folks can point me to a quick fix. If not, I would be willing to give it to any members on this group -- will ask that you pay actual shipping.  Will ship to USA only to avoid customs/international issues.  Thanks and regards, Harshad KhatriChicago -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jun 3 01:13:23 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 23:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Issue with Cassette Deck 2 In-Reply-To: <898577120.3999439.1464905249947.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <898577120.3999439.1464905249947.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <898577120.3999439.1464905249947.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <647422525.4254519.1464909203421.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> The motor must be working or else it wouldn't FF or REW.When you tried to play a tape, if the tape was not running the deck thinks the tape is at it's end and stops. With no tape in, press FF and if it stays running, let it go for a while, half hour or???Sometimes they just need a little exercise after sitting for long periods of time.Bob N From: Harshad Khatri via Naktalk To: "naktalk at lists.naks.com" Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 3:07 PM Subject: [naktalk] Issue with Cassette Deck 2 Folks, Hope someone can help Took out my Cassette Deck 2 from storage and its not working:  FF and REW work. However when I press the play button, the head carriage raises for a few seconds and then drops back down.  Cassette does not play.  I opened the case and found that the main cassette spindle motor does not rotate at all. Appreciate if you folks can point me to a quick fix. If not, I would be willing to give it to any members on this group -- will ask that you pay actual shipping.  Will ship to USA only to avoid customs/international issues.  Thanks and regards, Harshad KhatriChicago ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jun 3 00:58:17 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tim Rusling via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 22:58:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Issue with Cassette Deck 2 In-Reply-To: <898577120.3999439.1464905249947.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <898577120.3999439.1464905249947.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <898577120.3999439.1464905249947.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <92734883.4267386.1464908297242.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> I'm not in the US, but my Cassette Deck 2 has always worked beautifully. It's a shame when one of the simpler ones goes south.  Tim Rusling On Thursday, June 2, 2016 6:11 PM, Harshad Khatri via Naktalk wrote: Folks, Hope someone can help Took out my Cassette Deck 2 from storage and its not working:  FF and REW work. However when I press the play button, the head carriage raises for a few seconds and then drops back down.  Cassette does not play.  I opened the case and found that the main cassette spindle motor does not rotate at all. Appreciate if you folks can point me to a quick fix. If not, I would be willing to give it to any members on this group -- will ask that you pay actual shipping.  Will ship to USA only to avoid customs/international issues.  Thanks and regards, Harshad KhatriChicago ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Greg Bauer via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > I just spent a BUNCH of time looking through years of archives… so, > let’s make this simple. Can anyone send me suggestions for ANYONE out > there doing quality Dragon repairs (refurbs, re-conditioning, overhaul)? > Seems to me that a few (4 or 5) years ago there was a respected technician > doing Dragon and other Nak refurbs somewhere in the U.S. Northwest. > Seattle, San Fransisco maybe. Can’t remember. I remember the NAKTALK > guys were all over it at the time. Any help would be awesome. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Jun 7 21:59:24 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Cheryl Kaupp via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 09:59:24 -1000 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Repairs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Willie Hermann Services in Moraga, California. http://www.willyhermannservices.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Greg Bauer via Naktalk Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 7:44 AM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Repairs I just spent a BUNCH of time looking through years of archives. so, let's make this simple. Can anyone send me suggestions for ANYONE out there doing quality Dragon repairs (refurbs, re-conditioning, overhaul)? Seems to me that a few (4 or 5) years ago there was a respected technician doing Dragon and other Nak refurbs somewhere in the U.S. Northwest. Seattle, San Fransisco maybe. Can't remember. I remember the NAKTALK guys were all over it at the time. Any help would be awesome. Thanks guys ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Jun 7 22:47:50 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Andrew Burkhart via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 13:47:50 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Repairs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54B81396-0D0E-499A-B5C6-26E5035F1B9E@unilect.com> I can also vouch for Willy Hermann. I don't have a Dragon (just a CR7A) but he does great work and he has serviced loads of Dragons. Seen plenty in his shop. Andrew Burkhart Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 7, 2016, at 12:59 PM, Cheryl Kaupp via Naktalk wrote: > > > Willie Hermann Services in Moraga, California. > > http://www.willyhermannservices.com/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Greg > Bauer via Naktalk > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 7:44 AM > To: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Repairs > > I just spent a BUNCH of time looking through years of archives. so, > let's make this simple. Can anyone send me suggestions for ANYONE out > there doing quality Dragon repairs (refurbs, re-conditioning, overhaul)? > Seems to me that a few (4 or 5) years ago there was a respected technician > doing Dragon and other Nak refurbs somewhere in the U.S. Northwest. > Seattle, San Fransisco maybe. Can't remember. I remember the NAKTALK > guys were all over it at the time. Any help would be awesome. Thanks > guys > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your > account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jun 8 06:34:06 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Tom Severin via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 21:34:06 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Repairs In-Reply-To: <54B81396-0D0E-499A-B5C6-26E5035F1B9E@unilect.com> References: <54B81396-0D0E-499A-B5C6-26E5035F1B9E@unilect.com> Message-ID: I can also vouch for Willy Hermann. I don't have a Dragon (just a CR7 & RX 505) but he does great work. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 7, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Andrew Burkhart via Naktalk wrote: > > can also vouch for Willy Hermann. I don't have a Dragon (just a CR7A) but he does great work From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jun 8 12:46:06 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Rich via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 06:46:06 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon repair Message-ID: <5359075F-E48F-43AA-B181-084FEC53EFC8@yahoo.com> I've used Willy before. Fantastic service. Sent from my iPhone From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jun 8 13:53:02 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Wouter Heijke via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2016 13:53:02 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] 580 In-Reply-To: <01e270edfd2cc887cef0ea448afd37ab@xs4all.nl> References: <004801d1bc8d$3510f750$9f32e5f0$@aol.com> <006201d1bc9c$e48f6d60$adae4820$@aol.com> <01e270edfd2cc887cef0ea448afd37ab@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <437c7122a984638857d31b7330ae1fc0@xs4all.nl> Got another 580, this one is an early one like Henk's, a few numbers away from his. But it has the seperate 'classic' record head and a guide on the left pressure roller, but doesn't have the pad lifter. Interestingly the adjustment for RH-hight is at the same spot as my newer deck that has the record head disguised as a guide on the left roller and the pad lifter.. It's almost like they threw in what they had at hand. All quite confusing, but interesting! Wouter On 2016-06-02 09:28 AM, Wouter Heijke via Naktalk wrote: > Hi John, > > Thank you for these wonderful additions to this story of what seems to > be an exciting deck! I never bothered about it, until found this one > not far from where I live and it's story is basically that of the > first classic mech. deck where all the initial problems where ironed > out. > Mine seems to be a little newer then Henk's, so it explains the > pad-lifter. > I also noticed the 'weird' pressure rollers, for a moment i thought > the deck was butchered! Also at first I missed the erase head! I > totally overlooked it, what is there looked like the regular tape > guide! Reading the description revealed the head and the SM did the > rest. > > Wouter > > On 2016-06-02 09:03 AM, John Gipps via Naktalk wrote: >> Hi All >> >> Just found a little more information re the N580 pad lifter - see >> document attached Nakamichi Service Doc 0087.dpf. >> >> The document attached is dated 28 February 1979 and is the first page >> of a Nakamichi Service Bulletin 00D-M-0087. It states that pad lifters >> were fitted to the N580 starting with S/N A301 08051. This seems to >> fit Henk's two decks - one without pad lifter 07239, and one with pad >> lifter 08733. >> >> In case those of you who remove pad lifters for head cleaning purposes >> haven't noticed, pad lifters are not symmetrical, and there is a >> correct orientation. The two angled tabs go to the rear of the head - >> the >> non-angled tabs go to the front. I do recommend removing pad lifters >> for head cleaning - you can do a much better job of cleaning - you've >> just got to put the pad lifter back on the right way around☺ >> >> Regards >> >> John Gipps >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Gipps [mailto:JohnGipps at aol.com] >> Sent: Thursday, 2 June 2016 3:11 PM >> To: naktalk at lists.naks.com; naktalk-request at lists.naks.com >> Cc: JohnGipps at aol.com >> Subject: RE: Naktalk Digest, Vol 159, Issue 1 >> >> Hi Wouter >> >> I've read with great interest the comments on this topic from you, and >> Henk, and Martin and am reminded of the introduction of the 580 onto >> the market in Australia. The 580 was the first of the "classic >> transport" decks to be received by dealers, and did arrive with a few >> problems. In particular, it had tape path problems (tape would wander >> off track with only slight provocation). While the Service Manual >> shows that both the initial and subsequent versions of the 580 had a >> pad lifter, this was not actually the case with the first machines >> received by us. Early customers were supplied machines with no pad >> lifter. This was subsequently addressed if and when a 580 without a >> pad lifter came in for service within warranty or outside warranty. We >> would automatically fit a pad lifter to any 580 we encountered without >> one, and this greatly helped with tape path problems. So it's >> definitely the case that in Australia, there are early 580's with and >> without pad lifters to this day. I don't know what happened in other >> countries, but possibly a similar situation. >> >> The 580 Service Manual (Blue cover, separate sections for initial and >> subsequent 580s) was issued well after the introduction of the first >> 580's. With the first 580 arrivals, we were given a few dozen pages of >> service material, but it wasn't comprehensive or very useful, and >> doesn't show the head block in detail. So the full Service Manual >> does show pad lifters on early and subsequent versions. It also shows >> the different pressure rollers on early and subsequent versions. Early >> 580's had dissimilar pressure rollers, so both of Henk's 580's >> presumably have this feature unless they have been updated. >> >> Regards >> >> John Gipps >> >> >> >> Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:40:17 +0200 >> From: Wouter Heijke via Naktalk >> To: naktalk at naks.come >> Subject: [naktalk] 580 >> Message-ID: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf at xs4all.nl> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> >> Hey All, >> >> I recently became the owner of a 580, so not the 580M. >> For long the website list this deck as having NO pressure pad lifter >> and having NO (manual) bias calibration. >> I soon found that it does have manual bias calibration, it does lack >> the 15khz tone generator, sadly... >> Now I also see mine has a pressure pad lifter, it seems from a 1000zxl >> ltd because of its goldish color! >> >> Does anyone else have a 580? Can you check if yours has the pad >> lifter? >> I remember making this specific change once to the website because >> someone pointed this 'error' out to me, but I now wonder if mine has a >> pad lifter installed after it left the factory or they all have it? >> >> Wouter > From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jun 8 18:58:15 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Greg Bauer via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 16:58:15 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon repair In-Reply-To: <5359075F-E48F-43AA-B181-084FEC53EFC8@yahoo.com> References: <5359075F-E48F-43AA-B181-084FEC53EFC8@yahoo.com> Message-ID: I've gotten a lot of feedback in his direction. I just got finished reading his reply to me. Sounds good. THANKS ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Rich via Naktalk Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 6:46 AM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Dragon repair I've used Willy before. Fantastic service. Sent from my iPhone ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Jun 10 02:53:58 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (John Gipps via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 10:53:58 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk Digest, Vol 159, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005a01d1c2b2$99189f70$cb49de50$@aol.com> Hi Wouter I’ve attached a pdf showing the early version Supply Pressure Roller E Assembly (FO4). This shows the erase head with guide and the roller that ought to be in your latest 580 – does your assembly resemble this? Regards John Message: 2 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2016 13:53:02 +0200 From: Wouter Heijke via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] 580 Message-ID: < 437c7122a984638857d31b7330ae1fc0 at xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Got another 580, this one is an early one like Henk's, a few numbers away from his. But it has the seperate 'classic' record head and a guide on the left pressure roller, but doesn't have the pad lifter. Interestingly the adjustment for RH-hight is at the same spot as my newer deck that has the record head disguised as a guide on the left roller and the pad lifter.. It's almost like they threw in what they had at hand. All quite confusing, but interesting! Wouter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Rob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: via Naktalk Sender: "Naktalk" Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 10:21:44 To: Reply-To: naktalk at lists.naks.com, naktalk-request at lists.naks.com Subject: Naktalk Digest, Vol 159, Issue 7 Send Naktalk mailing list submissions to naktalk at lists.naks.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to naktalk-request at lists.naks.com You can reach the person managing the list at naktalk-owner at lists.naks.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Naktalk digest..." Naktalk digest mailing list Please be careful when replying to this digest mail. A good suggestion is to only subscribe in digest mode if you only want to want to get the latest news but don't want to participate in discussion. Otherwise, don't go with digest mode. If you decide to reply anyway, reply to the message itself, so remove the digested email from the reply message and copy the subject to the reply message... you really need to know what you are doing. Digest messages that are replied to without taking any of these precautions may get discarded. Today's Topics: 1. Re: Naktalk Digest, Vol 159, Issue 6 (John Gipps via Naktalk) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 10:53:58 +1000 From: John Gipps via Naktalk To: , Cc: JohnGipps at aol.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Naktalk Digest, Vol 159, Issue 6 Message-ID: <005a01d1c2b2$99189f70$cb49de50$@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Wouter I’ve attached a pdf showing the early version Supply Pressure Roller E Assembly (FO4). This shows the erase head with guide and the roller that ought to be in your latest 580 – does your assembly resemble this? Regards John Message: 2 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2016 13:53:02 +0200 From: Wouter Heijke via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] 580 Message-ID: < 437c7122a984638857d31b7330ae1fc0 at xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Got another 580, this one is an early one like Henk's, a few numbers away from his. But it has the seperate 'classic' record head and a guide on the left pressure roller, but doesn't have the pad lifter. Interestingly the adjustment for RH-hight is at the same spot as my newer deck that has the record head disguised as a guide on the left roller and the pad lifter.. It's almost like they threw in what they had at hand. All quite confusing, but interesting! Wouter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Jun 29 22:33:17 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Norman van Wijnen via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 22:33:17 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] resistor value of detector pcb 1000ZXL Message-ID: Hi all, i have a little problem with a detector pcb of the 1000 zxl . I am working on building a clone of the original board . That board is for my second 1000zxl which is missing that detector pcb. The schema of that board tell us that resistor R105 and R205 have a value of 10K. Checking my original board R105 is indeed 10K but R205 has a value of 47K. Is there anybody with a detector pcb who can look what value is on that one? Thanks Norman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Mar 3 05:58:17 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?b?Sm95LUVsbCAmIFJhaW5lcg==?= via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2016 22:58:17 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] faulty 680 idle arm or reel hub? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20160302225817.936ouo3e2o0ok0kw@webmail.sasktel.net> Hello Corbin, that may very well be the idler. Take the cover off and have a look to see if you can see where the noise is coming from. Welcome to Naktalk! :)   Cheers, Rainer S. On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 17:55:27 -0600, Corbin Jones via Naktalk wrote: Hello I'm a new member and owner of a 680 that is making a fairly loud clunking noise during playback. If playing without a tape the sound isn't very noticeable however if I add a little tension to the reel hub take-up it stats clunk, clunk, clunk... Is this the idle tire riding too far forward on the idler hub contacting the reel table too close to the clutch or is there something defective with the reel hub itself?  --  Amitiés, Corbin ------------------------- ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Mar 8 02:58:22 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Sourav Yahoo via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 17:58:22 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Cassette Deck 1 - the volume drops while playing Message-ID: <119B06BE-01C7-4C90-8870-AF64C0762C2E@yahoo.com> Hi, I have a Cassette Deck 1 which was working all fine till 2 days back. All of a sudden I'm facing issues with the deck with the play. After playing for a minute or so the volume suddenly drops and the sound gets garbled. Now this is not happening with all cassettes but with most of them. Also for some cassettes I face this problem once and later on it plays all well. The opposite happens too. Any idea what is going on ? Another observation is if I press the play button without cassette within, the capstan still roles at a little fast speed. Is this usual ? Regards, Sourav From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Mar 8 08:55:08 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (N.van.wijnen@ziggo.nl via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:55:08 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Cassette Deck 1 - the volume drops while playing In-Reply-To: <119B06BE-01C7-4C90-8870-AF64C0762C2E@yahoo.com> References: <119B06BE-01C7-4C90-8870-AF64C0762C2E@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5BE3DC2E-4157-4227-B24C-2F8579ECA58D@ziggo.nl> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 8 mrt. 2016 om 02:58 heeft Sourav Yahoo via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: > > Hi, > > I have a Cassette Deck 1 which was working all fine till 2 days back. > > All of a sudden I'm facing issues with the deck with the play. After playing for a minute or so the volume suddenly drops and the sound gets garbled. > > Now this is not happening with all cassettes but with most of them. Also for some cassettes I face this problem once and later on it plays all well. The opposite happens too. > > Any idea what is going on ? > > Another observation is if I press the play button without cassette within, the capstan still roles at a little fast speed. Is this usual ? > > Regards, > Sourav > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Mar 8 08:56:24 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (N.van.wijnen@ziggo.nl via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:56:24 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Cassette Deck 1 - the volume drops while playing In-Reply-To: <119B06BE-01C7-4C90-8870-AF64C0762C2E@yahoo.com> References: <119B06BE-01C7-4C90-8870-AF64C0762C2E@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8B48E575-48A4-40AF-BC7A-B611AF4432A8@ziggo.nl> Hi Sourav, I think you have to check your capstan belt. Best regards, Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 8 mrt. 2016 om 02:58 heeft Sourav Yahoo via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: > > Hi, > > I have a Cassette Deck 1 which was working all fine till 2 days back. > > All of a sudden I'm facing issues with the deck with the play. After playing for a minute or so the volume suddenly drops and the sound gets garbled. > > Now this is not happening with all cassettes but with most of them. Also for some cassettes I face this problem once and later on it plays all well. The opposite happens too. > > Any idea what is going on ? > > Another observation is if I press the play button without cassette within, the capstan still roles at a little fast speed. Is this usual ? > > Regards, > Sourav > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Mar 11 20:39:59 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:39:59 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] =?utf-8?q?Nakamichi_680_problems?= Message-ID: <934671.81580.bm@smtp212.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hi Naktalkers, I wrote already that I get sound of my N680 after I removed, opened ,cleaned the oxidation inside the Tape/Sourse switch. The problem now is that the deck does not record test 400hz .It does not record any sound from CD trough its Input. When I press Rec+Play buttons the deck erase the sound from the tape but obviously no sound goes to Record head. It’s strange that in Source position I have 400hz test tone on FL indicators,but I don’t have sound from outer source as from CD. When I try to record by pressing REC/PLAY button-there is not any recording of test tone 4000hz and music from cd, but only erase the tape. Where is the problem? Is the problem is somewhere I electronic elements? Please help me - I am very confused. Sent from Windows Mail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Mar 11 22:20:47 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?b?Sm95LUVsbCAmIFJhaW5lcg==?= via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:20:47 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 680 problems In-Reply-To: <934671.81580.bm@smtp212.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <934671.81580.bm@smtp212.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20160311152047.hfvd841wggw04sgg@webmail.sasktel.net> Sounds like you didn't get that switch put together properly, or maybe lost the contacts and didn't realize ??  Rainer On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:39:59 +0000, via Naktalk wrote: Hi Naktalkers, I wrote already that I get sound of my N680 after I removed, opened ,cleaned the oxidation inside the Tape/Sourse switch. The problem now is that the deck does not record test 400hz .It does not record any sound from CD trough its Input. When I press Rec+Play buttons the deck erase the sound from the tape but obviously no sound goes to Record head.  It’s strange that in Source position I have 400hz test tone on FL indicators,but I don’t have sound from outer source as from CD. When  I try to record by pressing REC/PLAY button-there is not any recording of test tone 4000hz and music from cd, but only erase the tape. Where is the problem? Is the problem is somewhere I electronic elements? Please help me - I am very confused.   Sent from Windows Mail   ------------------------- ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Mar 11 23:26:37 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Gerhard Wartha via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:26:37 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 680 problems In-Reply-To: <934671.81580.bm@smtp212.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <934671.81580.bm@smtp212.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: check the input Level pot. Check the bias oscillator and replace the orange PP-caps in the oscillator with polypropylene capacitors same value. with regards Gerhard Am 11.03.2016 um 20:39 schrieb via Naktalk: > Hi Naktalkers, > I wrote already that I get sound of my N680 after I removed, > opened ,cleaned the oxidation inside the Tape/Sourse switch. > The problem now is that the deck does not record test 400hz .It > does not record any sound from CD trough its Input. When I press Rec > +Play buttons the deck erase the sound from the tape but obviously > no sound goes to Record head. It’s strange that in Source position > I have 400hz test tone on FL indicators,but I don’t have sound from > outer source as from CD. When I try to record by pressing REC/PLAY > button-there is not any recording of test tone 4000hz and music > from cd, but only erase the tape. > Where is the problem? Is the problem is somewhere I electronic > elements? > Please help me - I am very confused. > > Sent from Windows Mail > > ========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/ > naktalk > ========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Mar 12 15:16:25 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 14:16:25 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] =?utf-8?q?Nakamichi_680_problems?= In-Reply-To: References: <934671.81580.bm@smtp212.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: <28818.89177.bm@smtp221.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Thank you guys for your fast response. To Rainer: I think that I put the play/source switch back together correctly. There are only 4 slide-contacts inside. I found 80% oxidation inside. I worked very careful with 2000 grid sandpaper wet with WD4,then washed with kerosene. Two of the slides were open-loosed and kind of weak, so I had bend their lips back together…..obviously there was some sparking inside the switch. To Gerhard: When I read your post yesterday night at work I hit my head “Man I’m not sure about input level controls/pots”. The N680 stays on the working table naked without covers and faceplate for almost 2 months . I replaced the orange caps in bias oscillator,replaced the cam and capstan belts, removed and check the record head…..,to find this morning that both record level and master pots are turned left to zero. I can not describe how ashamed I am. I don’t remember why an when I turned them off. Getting older - that’s why. Now I have signal from both channels I went in more new problems : -the deck does not engage in record .When rec+play are pressed the rec lamp does not light up. It was working yesterday -what happened? -FL indicators stopped to work too. At first they start to blink in source mode with 400hz ton after that they disappeared in play the cassette mode. Very strange - unpredictable. -without FL indicators the deck still plays the cassette and the CUE/RAMM mode works properly . What I noticed long ago every time I turn the power on the bars of FL indicators go the end and the loud POP sound is heart in the speakers. The Output level knob is turned to max. What can stop engaging the Rec button ? It was engaging for those 2 months without problem. The only new thing I did this morning is turned the REC LEVEL/MASTER pots off the “0”. I will appreciate any thoughts about strange behavior of N680. My best regards to all of you. Sent from Windows Mail From: Gerhard Wartha Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎March‎ ‎11‎, ‎2016 ‎5‎:‎26‎ ‎PM To: vepemi at yahoo.com, Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks check the input Level pot. Check the bias oscillator and replace the orange PP-caps in the oscillator with polypropylene capacitors same value. with regards Gerhard Am 11.03.2016 um 20:39 schrieb via Naktalk: > Hi Naktalkers, > I wrote already that I get sound of my N680 after I removed, > opened ,cleaned the oxidation inside the Tape/Sourse switch. > The problem now is that the deck does not record test 400hz .It > does not record any sound from CD trough its Input. When I press Rec > +Play buttons the deck erase the sound from the tape but obviously > no sound goes to Record head. It’s strange that in Source position > I have 400hz test tone on FL indicators,but I don’t have sound from > outer source as from CD. When I try to record by pressing REC/PLAY > button-there is not any recording of test tone 4000hz and music > from cd, but only erase the tape. > Where is the problem? Is the problem is somewhere I electronic > elements? > Please help me - I am very confused. > > Sent from Windows Mail > > ========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/ > naktalk > ========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Mar 12 21:31:04 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Gerhard Wartha via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 21:31:04 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] strange behavior of N680. Message-ID: <66AC003B-0EB1-44E7-8171-A5E976FD3310@gmail.com> Hi. vepemi If your N680 have so many strange behaviors , check the Power Supply, check the voltage supplied for each PCB´s take a close look at the big Power supply CE-Filter caps. Or even better, replace them. DC- Power for the logic and main PCB must be perfect and smooth. If that does not help you have to learn and proof how the logic PCB works with C- MOS IC´s to handle the controls. An easy way is to look at a perfect working Deck. with regards Gerhard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Mar 13 23:19:06 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Vesselin Uzunov via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 22:19:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] strange behavior of N680. In-Reply-To: <66AC003B-0EB1-44E7-8171-A5E976FD3310@gmail.com> References: <66AC003B-0EB1-44E7-8171-A5E976FD3310@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1583092256.805872.1457907546054.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Gerhard,I need to be apologized again. I have picked a cassette TDK SAX 100 with the security tabs removed,that is way couldn't get Rec button  worked. I have limited  time to work on the deck,been in hurry,eager to get it fixed I make this mistakes...Here is the situation with the deck now: 1.The N680 is hooked up to Receiver/single CD player. When the power is turn on ,I hear the POP sound in the speakers and FL INDICATORS BARS go to end for part of the second . I checked the power supply voltages.They are a little low 19.5 V instead of 20V and 11.7V instead of 12V.2.The deck plays cassette normally.The FL indicators work too.3.The 400hz  ton works in SOURCE, but the FL indicators stop after few seconds. In SOURCE i have good signal from CD and record level control work.4. In REC/PLAY mode the deck does not record 400hz test tone neither music from CD. It looks like the RH is disconnected. But the deck erase the tape . This means that  EH works.Last week I checked the REC HEAD . It seems to be o.k.It seems to me that this is small  problem somewhere,but I don't have much knowledge and experience,or maybe stupid mistake from me again. So I need your help,and wait eagerly for any advice.Best regards.Vesselin From: Gerhard Wartha via Naktalk To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:31 PM Subject: [naktalk] strange behavior of N680. Hi. vepemi  If your N680 have so many strange behaviors , check the Power Supply,check the voltage supplied for each  PCB´s take a close look  at the big  Power supply CE-Filter caps. Or even better, replace them. DC- Power for the logic and main PCB must be perfect and smooth. If that does not help you have to learn and proof how the logic PCB works with C- MOS IC´s  to  handle the controls. An easy way is to look at a perfect working Deck. with regards Gerhard  ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Mar 13 23:53:18 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ersted Bar via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 22:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] strange behavior of N680. References: <1833703902.693987.1457909598450.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1833703902.693987.1457909598450.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> replace the C901, C902, for fluorescent display (PP ...) -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 3/13/16, Vesselin Uzunov via Naktalk wrote: Subject: Re: [naktalk] strange behavior of N680. To: "Gerhard Wartha" , "Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks" Date: Sunday, March 13, 2016, 11:19 PM Hi Gerhard,I need to be apologized again. I have picked a cassette TDK SAX 100 with the security tabs removed,that is way couldn't get Rec button  worked. I have limited  time to work on the deck,been in hurry,eager to get it fixed I make this mistakes...Here is the situation with the deck now: 1.The N680 is hooked up to Receiver/single CD player. When the power is turn on ,I hear the POP sound in the speakers and FL INDICATORS BARS go to end for part of the second . I checked the power supply voltages.They are a little low 19.5 V instead of 20V and 11.7V instead of 12V.2.The deck plays cassette normally.The FL indicators work too.3.The 400hz  ton works in SOURCE, but the FL indicators stop after few seconds. In SOURCE i have good signal from CD and record level control work.4. In REC/PLAY mode the deck does not record 400hz test tone neither music from CD. It looks like the RH is disconnected. But the deck erase the tape . This means that  EH works.Last week I checked the REC HEAD . It seems to be o.k.It seems to me that this is small  problem somewhere,but I don't have much knowledge and experience,or maybe stupid mistake from me again. So I need your help,and wait eagerly for any advice.Best regards.Vesselin From: Gerhard Wartha via Naktalk To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:31 PM Subject: [naktalk] strange behavior of N680. Hi. vepemi  If your N680 have so many strange behaviors , check the Power Supply,check the voltage supplied for each  PCB´s take a close look  at the big  Power supply CE-Filter caps. Or even better, replace them. DC- Power for the logic and main PCB must be perfect and smooth. If that does not help you have to learn and proof how the logic PCB works with C- MOS IC´s  to  handle the controls. An easy way is to look at a perfect working Deck. with regards Gerhard  ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -----Inline Attachment Follows----- ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Mar 15 15:48:55 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (bb via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 15:48:55 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Caps replacement Message-ID: <56E820D7.10306@gmail.com> Hi everyone, Two questions about caps replacement: 1. E-caps: Which type of recent E-cap can replace those labelled (LN) in the SM of our beloved Naks ? (For instance 47 micro, 16V (LN) as C408 in ZX-9 or 10 micro, 16V (LN) as C409 in 700ZXL 2. PP-caps: For hard (impossible ?) to find orange caps as 3000 p, 100V, J : what is better for replacement: shift to 3300 p or replace by two caps in parallel 2700 p and 330 p ? Thanks for guidance Bernard From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Mar 15 16:40:47 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 15:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Caps replacement In-Reply-To: <56E820D7.10306@gmail.com> References: <56E820D7.10306@gmail.com> Message-ID: <995325379.326550.1458056447556.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Bernard, Here's a link for different Nichicon caps. A repair tech I know did some tests and found that the low leakage types have less noise than the audio grade. I wasn't there however but he's a good high end tech. I have no affiliation with Nichicon I just feel they are top of the line and have the best choices. Here's the link...  http://nichicon-us.com/english/products/alm_mini/index.html Bob N From: bb via Naktalk To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 7:48 AM Subject: [naktalk] Caps replacement Hi everyone, Two questions about caps replacement: 1. E-caps:  Which type of recent E-cap can replace those labelled (LN) in the SM of our beloved Naks ? (For instance 47 micro, 16V (LN) as C408 in  ZX-9 or 10 micro, 16V (LN) as C409 in 700ZXL 2. PP-caps: For hard (impossible ?) to find orange caps as 3000 p, 100V, J : what is better for replacement: shift to 3300 p or replace by two caps in parallel 2700 p and 330 p ? Thanks for guidance Bernard ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Mar 15 16:46:35 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Gerhard Wartha via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 16:46:35 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Caps replacement In-Reply-To: <56E820D7.10306@gmail.com> References: <56E820D7.10306@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3A0BD5E5-0FE2-4831-9DB1-242CE24FFFE6@gmail.com> Hi Bernard: ELNA LN electrolytic caps have been Low Noise caps, A fine replacement for does is the Nichicon FG Series, or Nichicon muse KZ. Both Series are made in Japan and do provide the same values used in the Naks. With PP. caps switch to 3300pF 100 Volt made in Japan. The 3300pF is the new Value instead of the old 3000pF There is a new Series made in Japan. This Series is a bright red and 100V polypropylene. If you like you can match does who are used in both channels to reach the 2% or less tolerance. Those caps are the same Size like the old orange Series made by Nissei. They look and work great. with regards Am 15.03.2016 um 15:48 schrieb bb via Naktalk: > Hi everyone, > > Two questions about caps replacement: > > 1. E-caps: Which type of recent E-cap can replace those labelled > (LN) in the SM of our beloved Naks ? (For instance 47 micro, 16V > (LN) as C408 in ZX-9 or 10 micro, 16V (LN) as C409 in 700ZXL > > 2. PP-caps: For hard (impossible ?) to find orange caps as 3000 p, > 100V, J : what is better for replacement: shift to 3300 p or > replace by two caps in parallel 2700 p and 330 p ? > > Thanks for guidance > > Bernard > ========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/ > naktalk > ========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Mar 16 01:39:33 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Garner, Scott H via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 00:39:33 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] EXTERNAL: Caps replacement In-Reply-To: <3A0BD5E5-0FE2-4831-9DB1-242CE24FFFE6@gmail.com> References: <56E820D7.10306@gmail.com> <3A0BD5E5-0FE2-4831-9DB1-242CE24FFFE6@gmail.com> Message-ID: You can't just replace a 3000pf with a 3300pf without doing a little homework. If I remember right the MPX filter in the 1000zxl uses a 3000pf. If you change it to a 3300pf you might have to change the associated resistor in the notch filter. You have to look at each application to be sure another part doesn't need to be changed. -----Original Message----- From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Gerhard Wartha via Naktalk Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 9:47 AM To: bb; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] Caps replacement Hi Bernard: ELNA LN electrolytic caps have been Low Noise caps, A fine replacement for does is the Nichicon FG Series, or Nichicon muse KZ. Both Series are made in Japan and do provide the same values used in the Naks. With PP. caps switch to 3300pF 100 Volt made in Japan. The 3300pF is the new Value instead of the old 3000pF There is a new Series made in Japan. This Series is a bright red and 100V polypropylene. If you like you can match does who are used in both channels to reach the 2% or less tolerance. Those caps are the same Size like the old orange Series made by Nissei. They look and work great. with regards Am 15.03.2016 um 15:48 schrieb bb via Naktalk: > Hi everyone, > > Two questions about caps replacement: > > 1. E-caps: Which type of recent E-cap can replace those labelled > (LN) in the SM of our beloved Naks ? (For instance 47 micro, 16V > (LN) as C408 in ZX-9 or 10 micro, 16V (LN) as C409 in 700ZXL > > 2. PP-caps: For hard (impossible ?) to find orange caps as 3000 p, > 100V, J : what is better for replacement: shift to 3300 p or replace > by two caps in parallel 2700 p and 330 p ? > > Thanks for guidance > > Bernard > ========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain > your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/ > naktalk > ========--------------------------------------------------------- > ========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Mar 16 09:27:41 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (bb via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 09:27:41 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] EXTERNAL: Caps replacement In-Reply-To: References: <56E820D7.10306@gmail.com> <3A0BD5E5-0FE2-4831-9DB1-242CE24FFFE6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <56E918FD.3020708@gmail.com> Would a association of 2700 p + 330 p be better in this specific case ? In the 1000ZXL, I think there are two instances of 3000p and four instances of 620 p which is quite hard to find as well (possible substitute could be 390 + 220 ?) Bernard Garner, Scott H via Naktalk a écrit : > You can't just replace a 3000pf with a 3300pf without doing a little homework. If I remember right the MPX filter in the 1000zxl uses a 3000pf. If you change it to a 3300pf you might have to change the associated resistor in the notch filter. You have to look at each application to be sure another part doesn't need to be changed. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Gerhard Wartha via Naktalk > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 9:47 AM > To: bb; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] Caps replacement > > Hi Bernard: > ELNA LN electrolytic caps have been Low Noise caps, > > A fine replacement for does is the Nichicon FG Series, or Nichicon muse KZ. Both Series are made in Japan and do provide the same values used in the Naks. > > With PP. caps switch to 3300pF 100 Volt made in Japan. The 3300pF is the new Value instead of the old 3000pF > > There is a new Series made in Japan. This Series is a bright red > and 100V polypropylene. > > If you like you can match does who are used in both channels to reach the 2% or less tolerance. > > Those caps are the same Size like the old orange Series made by Nissei. > > They look and work great. > > with regards > > > Am 15.03.2016 um 15:48 schrieb bb via Naktalk: > > >> Hi everyone, >> >> Two questions about caps replacement: >> >> 1. E-caps: Which type of recent E-cap can replace those labelled >> (LN) in the SM of our beloved Naks ? (For instance 47 micro, 16V >> (LN) as C408 in ZX-9 or 10 micro, 16V (LN) as C409 in 700ZXL >> >> 2. PP-caps: For hard (impossible ?) to find orange caps as 3000 p, >> 100V, J : what is better for replacement: shift to 3300 p or replace >> by two caps in parallel 2700 p and 330 p ? >> >> Thanks for guidance >> >> Bernard >> ========--------------------------------------------------------- >> ========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========--------------------------------------------------------- >> ========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain >> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/ >> naktalk >> ========--------------------------------------------------------- >> ========= >> > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Mar 16 14:02:23 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ron via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 13:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] EXTERNAL: Caps replacement In-Reply-To: <56E918FD.3020708@gmail.com> References: <56E918FD.3020708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <552734694.1048590.1458133343340.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Would a association of 2700 p + 330 p be better in this specific case ? This depends on the circuit the cap is used in; also, on the tolerance. In the case of a filter, the value accuracy is important. A engineer would calculate the range of values of the original cap (3000pF plus minus the tolerance). The actual value of the replacement should be within this range. Obviously, 3030pF (2700+330) has a better chance than 3300pF of meeting this requirement. If you have access to a capacitance meter, get 5 each of these values, measure them all and choose a combination that results in a value within that range. Without a capacitance meter, just use 2700pF+330pF. Good luck, -- Ron From: bb via Naktalk To: "Garner, Scott H" ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 4:27 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] EXTERNAL: Caps replacement Would a association of 2700 p + 330 p be better in this specific case ? In the 1000ZXL, I think there are two instances of 3000p and four instances of 620 p  which is quite hard to find as well (possible substitute could be 390 + 220 ?) Bernard Garner, Scott H via Naktalk a écrit : > You can't just replace a 3000pf with a 3300pf without doing a little homework. If I remember right the MPX filter in the 1000zxl uses a 3000pf. If you change it to a 3300pf you might have to change the associated resistor in the notch filter. You have to look at each application to be sure another part doesn't need to be changed. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Gerhard Wartha via Naktalk > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 9:47 AM > To: bb; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] Caps replacement > > Hi Bernard: > ELNA LN electrolytic caps  have been Low Noise caps, > > A fine replacement for does is  the  Nichicon FG  Series, or Nichicon muse KZ.  Both Series are made in Japan and do provide the same values used in the Naks. > > With PP. caps switch to 3300pF 100 Volt made  in Japan. The 3300pF is the new Value instead of the old 3000pF > > There is a new  Series made in Japan. This Series is a bright red  > and  100V polypropylene. > > If you like you  can match does who are used in both channels to reach the 2% or less tolerance. > > Those caps are the same Size like the old orange Series made by Nissei. > > They look and work great. > > with regards > > > Am 15.03.2016 um 15:48 schrieb bb via Naktalk: > >  >> Hi everyone, >> >> Two questions about caps replacement: >> >> 1. E-caps:  Which type of recent E-cap can replace those labelled  >> (LN) in the SM of our beloved Naks ? (For instance 47 micro, 16V >> (LN) as C408 in  ZX-9 or 10 micro, 16V (LN) as C409 in 700ZXL >> >> 2. PP-caps: For hard (impossible ?) to find orange caps as 3000 p, >> 100V, J : what is better for replacement: shift to 3300 p or replace >> by two caps in parallel 2700 p and 330 p ? >> >> Thanks for guidance >> >> Bernard >> ========--------------------------------------------------------- >> ========= >>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========--------------------------------------------------------- >> ========= >>                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain >> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/ >> naktalk >> ========--------------------------------------------------------- >> ========= >>    > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Mar 16 14:02:23 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ron via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 13:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] EXTERNAL: Caps replacement In-Reply-To: <56E918FD.3020708@gmail.com> References: <56E918FD.3020708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <552734694.1048590.1458133343340.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Would a association of 2700 p + 330 p be better in this specific case ? This depends on the circuit the cap is used in; also, on the tolerance. In the case of a filter, the value accuracy is important. A engineer would calculate the range of values of the original cap (3000pF plus minus the tolerance). The actual value of the replacement should be within this range. Obviously, 3030pF (2700+330) has a better chance than 3300pF of meeting this requirement. If you have access to a capacitance meter, get 5 each of these values, measure them all and choose a combination that results in a value within that range. Without a capacitance meter, just use 2700pF+330pF. Good luck, -- Ron From: bb via Naktalk To: "Garner, Scott H" ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 4:27 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] EXTERNAL: Caps replacement Would a association of 2700 p + 330 p be better in this specific case ? In the 1000ZXL, I think there are two instances of 3000p and four instances of 620 p  which is quite hard to find as well (possible substitute could be 390 + 220 ?) Bernard Garner, Scott H via Naktalk a écrit : > You can't just replace a 3000pf with a 3300pf without doing a little homework. If I remember right the MPX filter in the 1000zxl uses a 3000pf. If you change it to a 3300pf you might have to change the associated resistor in the notch filter. You have to look at each application to be sure another part doesn't need to be changed. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Gerhard Wartha via Naktalk > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 9:47 AM > To: bb; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] Caps replacement > > Hi Bernard: > ELNA LN electrolytic caps  have been Low Noise caps, > > A fine replacement for does is  the  Nichicon FG  Series, or Nichicon muse KZ.  Both Series are made in Japan and do provide the same values used in the Naks. > > With PP. caps switch to 3300pF 100 Volt made  in Japan. The 3300pF is the new Value instead of the old 3000pF > > There is a new  Series made in Japan. This Series is a bright red  > and  100V polypropylene. > > If you like you  can match does who are used in both channels to reach the 2% or less tolerance. > > Those caps are the same Size like the old orange Series made by Nissei. > > They look and work great. > > with regards > > > Am 15.03.2016 um 15:48 schrieb bb via Naktalk: > >  >> Hi everyone, >> >> Two questions about caps replacement: >> >> 1. E-caps:  Which type of recent E-cap can replace those labelled  >> (LN) in the SM of our beloved Naks ? (For instance 47 micro, 16V >> (LN) as C408 in  ZX-9 or 10 micro, 16V (LN) as C409 in 700ZXL >> >> 2. PP-caps: For hard (impossible ?) to find orange caps as 3000 p, >> 100V, J : what is better for replacement: shift to 3300 p or replace >> by two caps in parallel 2700 p and 330 p ? >> >> Thanks for guidance >> >> Bernard >> ========--------------------------------------------------------- >> ========= >>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========--------------------------------------------------------- >> ========= >>                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain >> your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/ >> naktalk >> ========--------------------------------------------------------- >> ========= >>    > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Mar 16 22:36:21 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (bb via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 22:36:21 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 480Z reel motor voltage Message-ID: <56E9D1D5.9040801@gmail.com> I am posting again about my 480Z. At the reel motor itself, I have 11.82 V during FF and only -5.40 V during RWD (not very strong ). Cannot find why... I would appreciate some help Thanks Bernard From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Mar 17 14:42:20 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (spok2000@gmx.de via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 14:42:20 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 1. Re: EXTERNAL: Caps replacement (Ron via Naktalk) Message-ID: You can find 3000pf easily if you look for Styroflex caps. These are NOS and quality wise absolutely on par with the PP orange caps, especially given the fact that Styroflex's never give up. They don't age and sound excellent. Still first choice for High End for many. You can find them as 5% or 1% tolerance for peanuts. I use these extensively wherever I find matching values and prefer them to these cheap WIMAs or whatever. It is not only the dreaded 302's that are available, it's also the 201, 182, 183, 473 and 470 values. Happy soldering ! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 496 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Mar 17 15:01:48 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (N.van.wijnen@ziggo.nl via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 15:01:48 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 1. Re: EXTERNAL: Caps replacement (Ron via Naktalk) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1D9F6F63-4E43-471C-8D2C-CEDE81014AB5@ziggo.nl> Hi , I agree . Very good quality . I use them if i can't find the wima pp caps of 2.5 % from the right value. I prefer the 1% procent tolerance on most places. Best regards, Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 17 mrt. 2016 om 14:42 heeft spok2000 at gmx.de via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: > > You can find 3000pf easily if you look for Styroflex caps. These are NOS and quality wise absolutely on par with the PP orange caps, especially given the fact that Styroflex's never give up. They don't age and sound excellent. Still first choice for High End for many. > You can find them as 5% or 1% tolerance for peanuts. I use these extensively wherever I find matching values and prefer them to these cheap WIMAs or whatever. > It is not only the dreaded 302's that are available, it's also the 201, 182, 183, 473 and 470 values. > > Happy soldering ! > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Mar 17 15:05:53 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (bb via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 15:05:53 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 1. Re: EXTERNAL: Caps replacement (Ron via Naktalk) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56EAB9C1.5030602@gmail.com> Many thanks for your help. Yes, I remember a previous famous member, Luis, who enjoyed the styroflex as well for his 1000ZXL. I will go in search for them Thanks a lot again Bernard spok2000 at gmx.de via Naktalk a écrit : > You can find 3000pf easily if you look for Styroflex caps. These are NOS and quality wise absolutely on par with the PP orange caps, especially given the fact that Styroflex's never give up. They don't age and sound excellent. Still first choice for High End for many. > You can find them as 5% or 1% tolerance for peanuts. I use these extensively wherever I find matching values and prefer them to these cheap WIMAs or whatever. > It is not only the dreaded 302's that are available, it's also the 201, 182, 183, 473 and 470 values. > > Happy soldering ! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Mar 17 21:55:14 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (avss01 via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 06:55:14 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] 1. Re: EXTERNAL: Caps replacement (Ron via Naktalk) In-Reply-To: <56EAB9C1.5030602@gmail.com> References: <56EAB9C1.5030602@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi I can vouch for these caps also. In Australia they are better known as polystyrene capacitors and I have used them to re-cap my ZX-9 with excellent results. Just a word of caution when soldering.......put a heatsink clip on each lead as you solder it, and get the iron off again as soon as you can...as these caps are sensitive to excessive heat and can retain an incorrect value if damaged. http://www.justradios.com/polystyrene.html Regards David -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Mar 23 13:31:20 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (bb via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:31:20 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Caps replacement In-Reply-To: <995325379.326550.1458056447556.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <56E820D7.10306@gmail.com> <995325379.326550.1458056447556.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <56F28C98.3060301@gmail.com> In Nak SM, you can find for some E-caps the notation "BP" Does it stand for "BiPolar" ? In Nichicon, the "UES" series (Muse) represents such "Bi-Polar/Non-Polar Electrolytic Capacitors". Can they replace usual (with the minus polarity indicated on the body) E-caps or do I have to select them only for those labeleld "BP"? Why do they still come with a longer lead ? Thanks for the teaching to come... Bernard Bob Naylor a écrit : > Bernard, Here's a link for different Nichicon caps. A repair tech I > know did some tests and found that the low leakage types have less > noise than the audio grade. I wasn't there however but he's a good > high end tech. > > I have no affiliation with Nichicon I just feel they are top of the > line and have the best choices. > > Here's the link... > http://nichicon-us.com/english/products/alm_mini/index.html > > Bob N > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* bb via Naktalk > *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 7:48 AM > *Subject:* [naktalk] Caps replacement > > Hi everyone, > > Two questions about caps replacement: > > 1. E-caps: Which type of recent E-cap can replace those labelled (LN) > in the SM of our beloved Naks ? (For instance 47 micro, 16V (LN) as C408 > in ZX-9 or 10 micro, 16V (LN) as C409 in 700ZXL > > 2. PP-caps: For hard (impossible ?) to find orange caps as 3000 p, 100V, > J : what is better for replacement: shift to 3300 p or replace by two > caps in parallel 2700 p and 330 p ? > > Thanks for guidance > > Bernard > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com > mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Mar 24 09:28:43 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (bb via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:28:43 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Caps replacement In-Reply-To: <413192815.4305281.1458765202987.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <56F28C98.3060301@gmail.com> <413192815.4305281.1458765202987.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <56F3A53B.9080300@gmail.com> A typical example of such capacitors is C416 (22micro, 25, (BP)) on the logic board of 480Z. It has the shape of a normal e-cap but no polarity as indicated by its represesentation of the electronic scheme. Yet it is indicated as an "lectrolytic capacitor" in the listing of components. Other examples are C106, 206 on the PB PCB of 700ZXL. Again no polarity. What I do not understand is why the "UES" Nichicon series is labelled as ""Bi-Polar/Non-Polar Electrolytic Capacitors" ? (here attached). Does that mean that they have no polarity ???? Bernard Bob Naylor a écrit : > Bernard, Not sure if the BP in the service manual means bipolar or not > but I believe you cannot use a polarized cap in the signal path. You > use a bipolar in a crossover network. Someone else may be able to > explain it better or correct me if I'm wrong. > Bob > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* bb > *To:* Bob Naylor > *Cc:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 5:31 AM > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Caps replacement > > In Nak SM, you can find for some E-caps the notation "BP" > > Does it stand for "BiPolar" ? > > In Nichicon, the "UES" series (Muse) represents such "Bi-Polar/Non-Polar > Electrolytic Capacitors". Can they replace usual (with the minus > polarity indicated on the body) E-caps or do I have to select them only > for those labeleld "BP"? > > Why do they still come with a longer lead ? > > Thanks for the teaching to come... > > Bernard > > Bob Naylor a écrit : > > Bernard, Here's a link for different Nichicon caps. A repair tech I > > know did some tests and found that the low leakage types have less > > noise than the audio grade. I wasn't there however but he's a good > > high end tech. > > > > I have no affiliation with Nichicon I just feel they are top of the > > line and have the best choices. > > > > Here's the link... > > http://nichicon-us.com/english/products/alm_mini/index.html > > > > Bob N > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* bb via Naktalk > > > *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 7:48 AM > > *Subject:* [naktalk] Caps replacement > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Two questions about caps replacement: > > > > 1. E-caps: Which type of recent E-cap can replace those labelled (LN) > > in the SM of our beloved Naks ? (For instance 47 micro, 16V (LN) as C408 > > in ZX-9 or 10 micro, 16V (LN) as C409 in 700ZXL > > > > 2. PP-caps: For hard (impossible ?) to find orange caps as 3000 p, 100V, > > J : what is better for replacement: shift to 3300 p or replace by two > > caps in parallel 2700 p and 330 p ? > > > > Thanks for guidance > > > > Bernard > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at lists.naks.com > > > > > mailinglist > > > Maintain your account here: > http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This is easily accomplished for coupling (collector to base)caps. -- Ron Bob Naylor a écrit : > Bernard, Not sure if the BP in the service manual means bipolar or not > but I believe you cannot use a polarized cap in the signal path. You > use a bipolar in a crossover network. Someone else may be able to > explain it better or correct me if I'm wrong. > Bob > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* bb > *To:* Bob Naylor > *Cc:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 5:31 AM > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Caps replacement > > In Nak SM, you can find for some E-caps the notation "BP" > > Does it stand for "BiPolar" ? > > In Nichicon, the "UES" series (Muse) represents such "Bi-Polar/Non-Polar > Electrolytic Capacitors". Can they replace usual (with the minus > polarity indicated on the body) E-caps  or do I have to select them only > for those labeleld "BP"? > > Why do they still come with a longer lead ? > > Thanks for the teaching to come... > > Bernard > > Bob Naylor a écrit : > > Bernard, Here's a link for different Nichicon caps. A repair tech I > > know did some tests and found that the low leakage types have less > > noise than the audio grade. I wasn't there however but he's a good > > high end tech. > > > > I have no affiliation with Nichicon I just feel they are top of the > > line and have the best choices. > > > > Here's the link... > >  http://nichicon-us.com/english/products/alm_mini/index.html > > > > Bob N > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* bb via Naktalk > > > *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 7:48 AM > > *Subject:* [naktalk] Caps replacement > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Two questions about caps replacement: > > > > 1. E-caps:  Which type of recent E-cap can replace those labelled (LN) > > in the SM of our beloved Naks ? (For instance 47 micro, 16V (LN) as C408 > > in  ZX-9 or 10 micro, 16V (LN) as C409 in 700ZXL > > > > 2. PP-caps: For hard (impossible ?) to find orange caps as 3000 p, 100V, > > J : what is better for replacement: shift to 3300 p or replace by two > > caps in parallel 2700 p and 330 p ? > > > > Thanks for guidance > > > > Bernard > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com > > > > > mailinglist > > > Maintain your account here: > http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Someone else may be able to > explain it better or correct me if I'm wrong. > Bob > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* bb > *To:* Bob Naylor > *Cc:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2016 5:31 AM > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Caps replacement > > In Nak SM, you can find for some E-caps the notation "BP" > > Does it stand for "BiPolar" ? > > In Nichicon, the "UES" series (Muse) represents such "Bi-Polar/Non-Polar > Electrolytic Capacitors". Can they replace usual (with the minus > polarity indicated on the body) E-caps  or do I have to select them only > for those labeleld "BP"? > > Why do they still come with a longer lead ? > > Thanks for the teaching to come... > > Bernard > > Bob Naylor a écrit : > > Bernard, Here's a link for different Nichicon caps. A repair tech I > > know did some tests and found that the low leakage types have less > > noise than the audio grade. I wasn't there however but he's a good > > high end tech. > > > > I have no affiliation with Nichicon I just feel they are top of the > > line and have the best choices. > > > > Here's the link... > >  http://nichicon-us.com/english/products/alm_mini/index.html > > > > Bob N > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* bb via Naktalk > > > *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 7:48 AM > > *Subject:* [naktalk] Caps replacement > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Two questions about caps replacement: > > > > 1. E-caps:  Which type of recent E-cap can replace those labelled (LN) > > in the SM of our beloved Naks ? (For instance 47 micro, 16V (LN) as C408 > > in  ZX-9 or 10 micro, 16V (LN) as C409 in 700ZXL > > > > 2. PP-caps: For hard (impossible ?) to find orange caps as 3000 p, 100V, > > J : what is better for replacement: shift to 3300 p or replace by two > > caps in parallel 2700 p and 330 p ? > > > > Thanks for guidance > > > > Bernard > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > >                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com > > > > > mailinglist > > > Maintain your account here: > http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2016\2016-May.txt.txt ************************************************************************ From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 2 17:51:10 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Yuri Regelman via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 08:51:10 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) - Yuri Regelman In-Reply-To: <02c701d18cef$89180460$9b480d20$@aol.com> References: <02c701d18cef$89180460$9b480d20$@aol.com> Message-ID: Just thought I'd send out an update. It turned out to be the tape... It is newer TDK MA, and I was thrown off by the readings I was getting on RX-505 and LX-5. However, when I checked the response on a couple of Dragons and CR-7, I noticed the same type of bump in the middle frequencies and a fall towards the 20k.. To put things to rest, I ended up buying one of the older TDK MA and sure enough I can calibrate flat response on the ZX-9 as well as Dragons and CR-7.. Rookie mistake I guess :) While on the subject of calibration, I tried following the service manual to properly calibrate the meter and the reference tone levels. However, I'm running into a little problem. The manual says to calibrate the meter with respect to the levels at test points on the Dolby board (MS25 and MS26). After that it tells me to set the 15kHz reference level to be 20db below 400Hz reference level at the output jacks. However that brings the 15kHz level at the test points down about 2.5dB. Looks like there is a HF bump in the stages following the test points.. One of the side effects is that the 15kHz measurement in the "Source" mode reads a bar or two below 0 mark on the level meter. Another side effect is that setting the 15kHz response on the tape to the 0 mark actually ends up setting about 2.5 db too hot.. Is that intended or does it point to a problem? Thanks, Yuri On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 7:54 AM, John Gipps via Naktalk < naktalk at lists.naks.com> wrote: > Hi Yuri > > I would be reasonably confident that your ZX-9 has some head wear - Record > head, Playback head, or both. It is my experience that if a deck performs > well on lower bias tapes, but starts to drop off prematurely on high bias > tapes, all other adjustments having been done correctly, then it is head > wear. You've tried decreasing the bias to try to pull the 20KHz up, and > you've found that this is causing a hump at lower frequencies. Normally > when this happens, with an underbiased condition, you will also end up with > an increase in THD at 400Hz. > > My advice would be to readjust the MA bias so that the response is flat at > lower frequencies (say 10KHz), and accept the roll off at frequencies above > 15KHz or so on MA. By doing this, your THD at 400Hz will go back to normal, > and the subjective results will be a lot better than in the underbiased > state. > > If it was in my system, I wouldn't bother using MA tape on it, but stick > to a good SX position tape - eg TDK SAX. As you've said, the responses on > SX tapes are still good, and the subject results will also be good. I > imagine that getting hold of a set of heads in good condition will be > difficult or expensive. Good luck with it. > > Regards > > John Gipps > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of via > Naktalk > Sent: Saturday, 2 April 2016 8:00 PM > To: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: Naktalk Digest, Vol 157, Issue 1 > > Send Naktalk mailing list submissions to > naktalk at lists.naks.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > naktalk-request at lists.naks.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > naktalk-owner at lists.naks.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Naktalk digest..." > > > Naktalk digest mailing list > > Please be careful when replying to this digest mail. 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ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) > (Yuri Regelman via Naktalk) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 16:51:44 -0700 > From: Yuri Regelman via Naktalk > To: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] ZX-9 questions (recording frequency response) > Message-ID: > x39RihY0BrgJUQD9A3PBiYJBEg at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Everyone, > After several years of remission, my Nakamichi bug came back with a > vengeance.. > I had a ZX-9 stashed away, that I started to rehabilitate. > One of the issues I'm noticing is that high frequency response is > attenuated while recording on a TDK MA tape by as much as 4-5db at 20k. > Type 1 and type 2 tapes record with a relatively flat response to 20k > @-20db. Playback response also seems ok, at least judging by recordings > made on my rx505 which goes flat to 20k. (I don't have calibration tapes > for frequencies above 15k, so a couple of good reference decks is all I've > got). > If I tweak the bias to bring the 20k recording response up to where it > should be, then 6-12k region gets pushed up too much. The bias frequency > is correct 105k. I also tried tuning the bias trap on the recording amp, > thinking that a bias leak may affect the recording amp and is stronger with > metal tapes. But it was already near the optimum setting and my > adjustments did not have much effect. Could anyone here shed some light on > this and point me in the right direction? > > On a separate note, I've tried taking off the front plate, and backed off > because I was not sure how to proceed... I've had no such problems with > any other Nak deck (Dragons, CR-5/7, LX5, 680zx etc, etc.. but ZX-9 had me > on the ropes. Is there anything special I should know about taking off the > front of the ZX-9, or was I just too faint of heart? > > Thanks, > Yuri > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.naks.com/mailman/private/naktalk/attachments/20160401/ebb381e2/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Register your Nak today! http://www.naks.com/register > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your > account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Naktalk Digest, Vol 157, Issue 1 > *************************************** > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Heard somewhere to not keep trying but probably the capstan bearing arms need the old grease removed and new grease applied to allow free movement of the arms so the control wheel can raise the heads up . Can this be done in place? I have the service manual but it doesn't specifically address this issue. Just need to know the best solvent to loosen the old lubricant up and exactly where it needs to be applied. Hopefully from the front through the door. Thanks for any help. Mike in Toronto. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 2 23:27:03 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?b?Sm95LUVsbCAmIFJhaW5lcg==?= via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 15:27:03 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 servicing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20160502152703.xd8wyi7juo44sk4k@webmail.sasktel.net> It's been a while but I don't think you can do much working through the front door. I think your looking at a transport overhaul. Try not to force the arms into moving as this can loosen the press fit of the pivot pin in the fixed end and that opens another can of worms.   Cheers, Rainer  On Mon, 2 May 2016 15:52:36 -0400, Mike H via Naktalk wrote: Hello fellow Nak afficionados. Just got a ZX7 that needs servicing from lack of use. Idler was in need of cleaning . Once that was done the unit will go into FF and rew but in play the heads won't rise up. Heard somewhere to not keep trying but probably the capstan bearing arms need the old grease removed and new grease applied to allow free movement of the arms so the control wheel can raise the heads up . Can this be done in place? I have the service manual but it doesn't specifically address this issue. Just need to know the best solvent to loosen the old lubricant up and exactly where it needs to be applied. Hopefully from the front through the door. Thanks for any help. Mike in Toronto. ------------------------- ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue May 3 07:03:05 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Gerhard Wartha via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 07:03:05 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] ZX transport Message-ID: Dear Mike , Your ZX-7 capstans do not need old or new lubricant. Keep the Capstans clean. Replace the Cam belt first. If that does not solve the problem, clean up and down moving parts from the tape transport. Clean the tape guide arms , without pulling them ! They do align the tape traveling . If that arms are stay sticky or looked, somebody with experience or alignment tools has to do this Service. Gerhard from Vienna From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue May 3 15:46:10 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Gerhard Wartha via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 15:46:10 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] ZX- transport Nr.2 Message-ID: <1124DAD3-F522-42CC-91B5-F26F9BE16AC1@gmail.com> Dear Mike Clean every part who is moving up and down. If you take care you can move the head-base by hand. By turning the biggest wheel between the two Alu Plates., Normally the Cam belt does that. If the tape guides still stay looked, there will be a lot of work. If you use Electronic Cleaner or alcohol cover the pinch rollers with plastic or alu. If the heads come up but the tape are not moving it becomes complicated. Because this Plastic parts must turn/move on a metal shaft. If old grease is inside there this will be not moving anymore. Some times it starts with worming up the metal carefully a little bit. But the real way out is to de assemble this parts , to clean them. But take care ! To put them together again you would need special tools. But there is a trick ! Because most Decks the cassette tape did left his track on the capstans and on the pinch rollers. It is a FE- Oxide dust track , seen on the capstans and pinch rollers. See photo if that photo did arrives Nak talk. To put that two tracks together again is the clue, if you don´t have the toll M-300. If you don´t see the tape track on this parts you can not re- assemble the tape guides without an alignment tool. You can use any good machine grease , for Nakamichi, not much , and exactly there where the old grease was. Gerhard -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMGP3602 small .jpg Type: application/applefile Size: 60899 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The round sensitive Plastic nut is made to to align. Not to push the spring ! push the spring by hand. The Plastic screw was secured by very little " paint " Use a tooth pick for using very little pice of screw paint on this parts. To control you work a tape traveling cassette can be made with a small mirror inside a cassette . On older Deck the round Plastic nut was a part made of brass. With that this work must done different. sorry There was one word missing in my first mail, If the heads come up but the tape guide is not moving it becomes complicated.  -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMGP3571 small .jpg Type: application/applefile Size: 58606 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please help. ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Mike H via Naktalk Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 11:20 AM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 lamp Hey Ray - did you ever find a replacement lamp or equivalent for the cassette door lamp on the ZX-7? I need one too. Mike. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue May 3 21:21:18 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Mark Exstedt via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 19:21:18 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 lamp In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: My understanding is they all use 12V 60mA lamps. I'm hoping someone will verify this is correct. ________________________________ From: Mike H Subject: RE: [naktalk] ZX-7 lamp All I need is the voltage and amperage plus it has to be small enough to fit in the rubber casing. ________________________________ To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 17:38:17 +0000 Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 lamp From: naktalk at lists.naks.com I need one for my Dragon, 680ZX, and RX-202. Please help. ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Mike H via Naktalk Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 11:20 AM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 lamp Hey Ray - did you ever find a replacement lamp or equivalent for the cassette door lamp on the ZX-7? I need one too. Mike. ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue May 3 22:11:24 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Norman van Wijnen via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 22:11:24 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 lamp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0E686B58-921F-4335-95FB-006D0B37E466@gmail.com> Hi Mark, As far as i know it is indeed a 12v 60ma lamp. Best regards, Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 3 mei 2016 om 21:21 heeft Mark Exstedt via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: > > > > My understanding is they all use 12V 60mA lamps. I'm hoping someone will verify this is correct. > > > From: Mike H > Subject: RE: [naktalk] ZX-7 lamp > > All I need is the voltage and amperage plus it has to be small enough to fit in the rubber casing. > > To: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 17:38:17 +0000 > Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 lamp > From: naktalk at lists.naks.com > > > > I need one for my Dragon, 680ZX, and RX-202. > Please help. > > > From: Naktalk on behalf of Mike H via Naktalk > Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 11:20 AM > To: naktalk at lists.naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 lamp > > Hey Ray - did you ever find a replacement lamp or equivalent for the cassette door lamp on the ZX-7? I need one too. 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Talking about the 0C08762A that sits in the middle, wider gearing, rather than the 0C08761A that are geared to it behind to the above and below. Same adjustment screws for the CR-3 through CR-7. I'm already watching eBay for a "parts/repair" CR3/4 to show up, just thought I'd ping you all to see if you knew of a resource. Thanks, -Tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue May 10 23:14:42 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (RSB via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 17:14:42 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk Digest, Vol 158, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have a wonderful RX505 with most of the innards rebuilt. The door is now getting a little old and stiff, but as it warms up it does its little pirouette quite nicely. What is recommended for cleaning/lubricating the door and pivot mechanism? I am afraid that one day the door won't open and cause the motor to burn out. Rob From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu May 12 23:42:03 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (takenodisk via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 23:42:03 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon parts needed Message-ID: Hi to all, i’m new to Nakamichi,for budget reason i went for a in need of refurb Dragon with Master,Right level,Output knobs missing and last not least a FRWD push button missing,i’ve thought i could easily get these parts but i’ve been watching the net for nearly 2 months none showed up since.So if any of you having these parts could help i would be very grateful.thanks in advance,Morris. From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri May 13 08:13:42 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ti Kan via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 23:13:42 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon won't play after power-up Message-ID: <20160513061342.GA3313@bazooka.amb.org> Hi folks, My Dragon has been working well for many years but recently developed a weird problem. After a cold power-up, if I press play, the head assembly moves up normally but the reel motor does not spin. But FF and REW works perfectly. If I play with it a bit, eventually the playback would start working and will not fail again unless I turn it off for a long time. I took off the cassette door shell, when the reel motor is working for playback, I tried to grab the reel spindle with my fingers while no tape is loaded, and felt that there is plenty of torque, so it's not likely to be an idler tire problem, right? Is this a common problem? I don't remember reading something like this on the list. -Ti From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri May 13 13:29:13 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (VLADO ANGELOV via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 14:29:13 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] 1000 II Logic Control Failure Message-ID: <004901d1ad0a$ad3adfd0$07b09f70$@techno-link.com> Dear Fellows, Recently acquired a nice Nak 1000 II serial # 3142579. All with transport and play functions worked well, there was a problem with muddy record. After opening for cleaning and staying opened for some weeks it started giving problem when powered - rec lamp lit in 80% of cases. All function modes work with red lamp staying on. First job done was power board recap. Same behaviour observed. Second job done - switch board electrolytic recap. Then came the puzzle - unit is with Touch Control Switch Assy of 1000 tri tracer type. I've seen such models in Google as well. At disassembly found different Touch Switch PCB Assy B 7536 - only 3 resistors and lamps on it - no other elements like Q 1,2,3,4,5,6,-11, C1 !? The Logic Control PCB Assy B 7593 is same looking as per the SM. Recapped all electrolytic of the LC PCB. No success - now 100% of tries are with red lamp REC lit at power on. Checked the rec mode cassette switch - OK. Tried to record /erase/ a cassette - not working with rec button depressed even. All cable loom connectors checked and cleaned. So guys, will highly appreciate any hint or knowledge on such a problem! Regards, Vlado -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri May 13 17:12:11 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?Q?P=C3=A4r_Eriksson?= via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 17:12:11 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon parts needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <792FE1F2ACA14F14A120C5DD38ED91CC@Megadator> Hi Morris, Check this on eBay, he seems to sell a Dragon as spareparts. Regards Pelle. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NAKAMICHI-DRAGON-COMMAND-BOARD-/291755107190?hash=item43edf5a376:g:VDAAAOSw~oFXKV~X -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- From: takenodisk via Naktalk Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 11:42 PM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Dragon parts needed Hi to all, i’m new to Nakamichi,for budget reason i went for a in need of refurb Dragon with Master,Right level,Output knobs missing and last not least a FRWD push button missing,i’ve thought i could easily get these parts but i’ve been watching the net for nearly 2 months none showed up since.So if any of you having these parts could help i would be very grateful.thanks in advance,Morris. ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri May 13 23:23:25 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (RSB via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 17:23:25 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] RX-505 Door Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Naksters: I have a wonderful RX505 with most of the innards rebuilt. The door is now getting a little old and stiff, but as it warms up it does its little pirouette quite nicely. What is recommended for cleaning/lubricating the door and pivot mechanism? I am afraid that one day the door won't open and cause the motor to burn out. Rob From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat May 14 07:05:33 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Daniel Botelho via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 01:05:33 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 lamp In-Reply-To: <0E686B58-921F-4335-95FB-006D0B37E466@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5736b220.221d8c0a.c6d14.ffffa61a@mx.google.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat May 14 10:37:28 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?Q?P=C3=A4r_Eriksson?= via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 10:37:28 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Spareparts for 700 ZXE Message-ID: <0B39A719EB8C4EEFA63F8A048697F0D1@Megadator> Hi all, I recently bought a 700 ZXE in poor condition. Some expert has made several “modifications” and also forgot to reinstall some internal brackets before assembling the machine. My question is, do we have a donor deck within this group? Regards Pelle. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat May 14 10:44:48 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?Q?P=C3=A4r_Eriksson?= via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 10:44:48 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Another Replacement Parts Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Tim, Have you found the gear yet? If not, I have one. Contact me if you are interested. Regards Pelle. From: Tim Skorick via Naktalk Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 4:54 AM To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: [naktalk] Another Replacement Parts Question Anyone know of a source for head height adjustment screws for the higher-end CR-series Naks? Talking about the 0C08762A that sits in the middle, wider gearing, rather than the 0C08761A that are geared to it behind to the above and below. Same adjustment screws for the CR-3 through CR-7. I'm already watching eBay for a "parts/repair" CR3/4 to show up, just thought I'd ping you all to see if you knew of a resource. Thanks, -Tim -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed May 25 22:27:03 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Birger Glosimot via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 22:27:03 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] 1000 ZXL ABLE and recording problem Message-ID: <000001d1b6c3$cc67aec0$65370c40$@tilkoblet.net> I have just received one of my 1000 ZXLs back from service. Complete change of bulbs and belts/idler. Before the service it would do ABLE test/calibration and record. However when I got it back it will not do so. I trust the service man and he says he checked it for those functions. Is it a simple solution to this problem(s), or do I have to take it back to the serviceman? BR Birger from Norway From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed May 25 23:17:36 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Garner, Scott H via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 21:17:36 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] EXTERNAL: 1000 ZXL ABLE and recording problem In-Reply-To: <000001d1b6c3$cc67aec0$65370c40$@tilkoblet.net> References: <000001d1b6c3$cc67aec0$65370c40$@tilkoblet.net> Message-ID: Send it back -----Original Message----- From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Birger Glosimot via Naktalk Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 2:27 PM To: 'Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks' Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 1000 ZXL ABLE and recording problem I have just received one of my 1000 ZXLs back from service. Complete change of bulbs and belts/idler. Before the service it would do ABLE test/calibration and record. However when I got it back it will not do so. I trust the service man and he says he checked it for those functions. Is it a simple solution to this problem(s), or do I have to take it back to the serviceman? BR Birger from Norway ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed May 25 23:38:36 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ram via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 17:38:36 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 1000 ZXL ABLE and recording problem In-Reply-To: <000001d1b6c3$cc67aec0$65370c40$@tilkoblet.net> References: <000001d1b6c3$cc67aec0$65370c40$@tilkoblet.net> Message-ID: <9BF8329A-C467-493B-986D-F4FF44DC7755@yahoo.com> Please open the deck and reseat all 4 ( playback, detector, record and bias) boards to the mother board below. Usually shipping causes those boards to unseat. Good luck. Ram > On May 25, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Birger Glosimot via Naktalk wrote: > > I have just received one of my 1000 ZXLs back from service. Complete change of bulbs and belts/idler. Before the service it would do ABLE test/calibration and record. > However when I got it back it will not do so. I trust the service man and he says he checked it for those functions. Is it a simple solution to this problem(s), or do I have to take it back to the serviceman? > > BR > Birger from Norway > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu May 26 00:17:15 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Garner, Scott H via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 22:17:15 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] EXTERNAL: Re: 1000 ZXL ABLE and recording problem In-Reply-To: <9BF8329A-C467-493B-986D-F4FF44DC7755@yahoo.com> References: <000001d1b6c3$cc67aec0$65370c40$@tilkoblet.net> <9BF8329A-C467-493B-986D-F4FF44DC7755@yahoo.com> Message-ID: I completely agree. Some 1000zxl used a 1 inch wide bar to hold the 4 boards in, the latter ones used the 3 inch wide one. -----Original Message----- From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Ram via Naktalk Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 3:39 PM To: Birger Glosimot; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [naktalk] 1000 ZXL ABLE and recording problem Please open the deck and reseat all 4 ( playback, detector, record and bias) boards to the mother board below. Usually shipping causes those boards to unseat. Good luck. Ram > On May 25, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Birger Glosimot via Naktalk wrote: > > I have just received one of my 1000 ZXLs back from service. Complete change of bulbs and belts/idler. Before the service it would do ABLE test/calibration and record. > However when I got it back it will not do so. I trust the service man and he says he checked it for those functions. Is it a simple solution to this problem(s), or do I have to take it back to the serviceman? > > BR > Birger from Norway > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain > your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------===== > ==== ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu May 26 15:32:45 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (bb via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 15:32:45 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] BX-125E ouput rotary potentiometer Message-ID: <5746FAFD.7060800@gmail.com> Dear Naktalkers, I have a BX-125E which works pretty well but the ouput rotary potentiometer that makes noise, looses times to times one channnel, and exhibits some significant axial play. I have tried contact cleaner without any result. The reference of this potentiomer is ALPS SV13A (10K x2) but cannot be found anywhere. Seems hard to dismantle it. Would someone have a spare one to sell ? Thanks Bernard From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 30 21:40:17 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Wouter Heijke via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:40:17 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] 580 Message-ID: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf@xs4all.nl> Hey All, I recently became the owner of a 580, so not the 580M. For long the website list this deck as having NO pressure pad lifter and having NO (manual) bias calibration. I soon found that it does have manual bias calibration, it does lack the 15khz tone generator, sadly... Now I also see mine has a pressure pad lifter, it seems from a 1000zxl ltd because of its goldish color! Does anyone else have a 580? Can you check if yours has the pad lifter? I remember making this specific change once to the website because someone pointed this 'error' out to me, but I now wonder if mine has a pad lifter installed after it left the factory or they all have it? Wouter From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 30 21:42:29 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Norman van Wijnen via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:42:29 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] 580 In-Reply-To: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf@xs4all.nl> References: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: Hi Wouter, as far as i know all Nakamichi decks with classic transport have a pad lifter. Best regards Norman 2016-05-30 21:40 GMT+02:00 Wouter Heijke via Naktalk : > Hey All, > > I recently became the owner of a 580, so not the 580M. > For long the website list this deck as having NO pressure pad lifter and > having NO (manual) bias calibration. > I soon found that it does have manual bias calibration, it does lack the > 15khz tone generator, sadly... > Now I also see mine has a pressure pad lifter, it seems from a 1000zxl ltd > because of its goldish color! > > Does anyone else have a 580? Can you check if yours has the pad lifter? > I remember making this specific change once to the website because someone > pointed this 'error' out to me, but I now wonder if mine has a pad lifter > installed after it left the factory or they all have it? > > Wouter > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 30 22:06:13 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (shanti ramachandran via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 20:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] 580 In-Reply-To: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf@xs4all.nl> References: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <646015279.1879884.1464638773380.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> The 580 is bias calibrable with a T100 or another external frequency generator. It only has the 400hz. test tone built in for level cal. Don't know about the pressure pad lifter though. The 580M, 581,582 and the Z models all had a pad lifter.  Being a dual capstan deck, I would expect the 580 to have a pad lifter as well. Ram. On Monday, May 30, 2016 3:40 PM, Wouter Heijke via Naktalk wrote: Hey All, I recently became the owner of a 580, so not the 580M. For long the website list this deck as having NO pressure pad lifter and having NO (manual) bias calibration. I soon found that it does have manual bias calibration, it does lack the 15khz tone generator, sadly... Now I also see mine has a pressure pad lifter, it seems from a 1000zxl ltd because of its goldish color! Does anyone else have a 580? Can you check if yours has the pad lifter? I remember making this specific change once to the website because someone pointed this 'error' out to me, but I now wonder if mine has a pad lifter installed after it left the factory or they all have it? Wouter ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 30 23:10:51 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Marco van Schoonhoven via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 23:10:51 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [naktalk] 580 In-Reply-To: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf@xs4all.nl> References: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1939465.39921.1464642651850.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> I had a 580 (none M) once and it had the pad lifter None the less if you search www there are almost only pictures without. The manual shows a picture of cleaning the head, and there is NO pressure pad lifter However the drawing below indicates a pad lifter Although this is the classic transport, on the photo's on www it looks like they are all missing the tape guides at the pinch rollers as well... And this is what we found on www: "The very first 580’s used the RP53 head as per the 600II and do not appear to have had the pad lifter fitted. Decks in the mid run of production definitely had the pad lifter, and the later units received a head change to the RP8L, which appears to be unique to this model." So you do NOT have a early model but the later upgraded one... :-) -- Met vriendelijke groet, Marco van Schoonhoven >----Origineel Bericht---- >Van : naktalk at lists.naks.com >Datum : 30/05/2016 21:40 >Aan : naktalk at naks.com >Onderwerp : [naktalk] 580 > >Hey All, > >I recently became the owner of a 580, so not the 580M. >For long the website list this deck as having NO pressure pad lifter and >having NO (manual) bias calibration. >I soon found that it does have manual bias calibration, it does lack the >15khz tone generator, sadly... >Now I also see mine has a pressure pad lifter, it seems from a 1000zxl >ltd because of its goldish color! > >Does anyone else have a 580? Can you check if yours has the pad lifter? >I remember making this specific change once to the website because >someone pointed this 'error' out to me, but I now wonder if mine has a >pad lifter installed after it left the factory or they all have it? > >Wouter > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon May 30 23:10:51 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Marco van Schoonhoven via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 23:10:51 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [naktalk] 580 In-Reply-To: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf@xs4all.nl> References: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1939465.39921.1464642651850.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> I had a 580 (none M) once and it had the pad lifter None the less if you search www there are almost only pictures without. The manual shows a picture of cleaning the head, and there is NO pressure pad lifter However the drawing below indicates a pad lifter Although this is the classic transport, on the photo's on www it looks like they are all missing the tape guides at the pinch rollers as well... And this is what we found on www: "The very first 580’s used the RP53 head as per the 600II and do not appear to have had the pad lifter fitted. Decks in the mid run of production definitely had the pad lifter, and the later units received a head change to the RP8L, which appears to be unique to this model." So you do NOT have a early model but the later upgraded one... :-) -- Met vriendelijke groet, Marco van Schoonhoven >----Origineel Bericht---- >Van : naktalk at lists.naks.com >Datum : 30/05/2016 21:40 >Aan : naktalk at naks.com >Onderwerp : [naktalk] 580 > >Hey All, > >I recently became the owner of a 580, so not the 580M. >For long the website list this deck as having NO pressure pad lifter and >having NO (manual) bias calibration. >I soon found that it does have manual bias calibration, it does lack the >15khz tone generator, sadly... >Now I also see mine has a pressure pad lifter, it seems from a 1000zxl >ltd because of its goldish color! > >Does anyone else have a 580? Can you check if yours has the pad lifter? >I remember making this specific change once to the website because >someone pointed this 'error' out to me, but I now wonder if mine has a >pad lifter installed after it left the factory or they all have it? > >Wouter > > >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue May 31 09:55:35 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Yuri Samsaev via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 10:55:35 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] 580 In-Reply-To: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf@xs4all.nl> References: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: Hi, Wouter! Mine 580 (non M) also has gold colored padlifter. But mine is from local japanese market (100V). Regards. Yuri. 30.05.2016 22:40, Wouter Heijke via Naktalk пишет: > Hey All, > > I recently became the owner of a 580, so not the 580M. > For long the website list this deck as having NO pressure pad lifter > and having NO (manual) bias calibration. > I soon found that it does have manual bias calibration, it does lack > the 15khz tone generator, sadly... > Now I also see mine has a pressure pad lifter, it seems from a 1000zxl > ltd because of its goldish color! > > Does anyone else have a 580? Can you check if yours has the pad lifter? > I remember making this specific change once to the website because > someone pointed this 'error' out to me, but I now wonder if mine has a > pad lifter installed after it left the factory or they all have it? > > Wouter > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: > http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue May 31 14:27:32 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Henk Schenk via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 14:27:32 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] 580 pressure pad lifter Message-ID: Hi Folks, I seem to own both versions 580. - 580 Sr No A301 07239 , no pressure pad lifter - 580 Sr No A301 08733 , copper coloured pressure pad lifter Both 580 have a tape guide on the left pressure roller carrier, but not on the right hand side. The right hand pressure roller carrier is simpler and different in shape than the ones in 581 and 582 machines. All my 581 and 582 machines have a right hand side tape guide, which might be needed for aligning the three head set up. All my 581 and 582 machines have a stainless steel coloured pressure pad lifter. Regards, Henk Schenk ======================================================== Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:40:17 +0200 From: Wouter Heijke via Naktalk To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] 580 Message-ID: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf at xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hey All, I recently became the owner of a 580, so not the 580M. For long the website list this deck as having NO pressure pad lifter and having NO (manual) bias calibration. I soon found that it does have manual bias calibration, it does lack the 15khz tone generator, sadly... Now I also see mine has a pressure pad lifter, it seems from a 1000zxl ltd because of its goldish color! Does anyone else have a 580? Can you check if yours has the pad lifter? I remember making this specific change once to the website because someone pointed this 'error' out to me, but I now wonder if mine has a pad lifter installed after it left the factory or they all have it? Wouter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue May 31 15:35:58 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (shanti ramachandran via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 13:35:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] 580 pressure pad lifter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <998649935.2302911.1464701758817.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> That explains the 580. Interesting. Ram. On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 8:33 AM, Henk Schenk via Naktalk wrote: Hi Folks, I seem to own both versions 580.  - 580 Sr No A301 07239 , no pressure pad lifter  - 580 Sr No A301 08733 , copper coloured pressure pad lifterBoth 580 have a tape guide on the left pressure roller carrier, but not on the right hand side. The right hand pressure roller carrier is simpler and different in shape than the ones in 581 and 582 machines. All my 581 and 582 machines have a right hand side tape guide, which might be needed for aligning the three head set up.All my 581 and 582 machines have a stainless steel coloured pressure pad lifter. Regards,Henk Schenk ========================================================Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:40:17 +0200 From: Wouter Heijke via Naktalk To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] 580 Message-ID: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf at xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hey All, I recently became the owner of a 580, so not the 580M. For long the website list this deck as having NO pressure pad lifter and having NO (manual) bias calibration. I soon found that it does have manual bias calibration, it does lack the 15khz tone generator, sadly... Now I also see mine has a pressure pad lifter, it seems from a 1000zxl ltd because of its goldish color! Does anyone else have a 580? Can you check if yours has the pad lifter? I remember making this specific change once to the website because someone pointed this 'error' out to me, but I now wonder if mine has a pad lifter installed after it left the factory or they all have it? Wouter ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue May 31 16:08:19 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Wouter Heijke via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 16:08:19 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] 580 pressure pad lifter In-Reply-To: <998649935.2302911.1464701758817.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <998649935.2302911.1464701758817.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Indeed! Interesting reading! Wouter On 2016-05-31 03:35 PM, shanti ramachandran via Naktalk wrote: > That explains the 580. Interesting. > > Ram. > > On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 8:33 AM, Henk Schenk via Naktalk > wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I seem to own both versions 580. > - 580 Sr No A301 07239 , no pressure pad lifter > - 580 Sr No A301 08733 , copper coloured pressure pad lifter > Both 580 have a tape guide on the left pressure roller carrier, but > not on the right hand side. > The right hand pressure roller carrier is simpler and different in > shape than the ones in 581 and 582 machines. > > All my 581 and 582 machines have a right hand side tape guide, which > might be needed for aligning the three head set up. > > All my 581 and 582 machines have a stainless steel coloured pressure > pad lifter. > > Regards, > Henk Schenk > > ======================================================== > Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:40:17 +0200 > From: Wouter Heijke via Naktalk > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] 580 > Message-ID: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf at xs4all.nl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Hey All, > > I recently became the owner of a 580, so not the 580M. > For long the website list this deck as having NO pressure pad lifter > and > having NO (manual) bias calibration. > I soon found that it does have manual bias calibration, it does lack > the > 15khz tone generator, sadly... > Now I also see mine has a pressure pad lifter, it seems from a 1000zxl > ltd because of its goldish color! > > Does anyone else have a 580? Can you check if yours has the pad > lifter? > I remember making this specific change once to the website because > someone pointed this 'error' out to me, but I now wonder if mine has a > pad lifter installed after it left the factory or they all have it? > > Wouter From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue May 31 19:23:30 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Wouter Heijke via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 19:23:30 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] 580 pressure pad lifter In-Reply-To: References: <998649935.2302911.1464701758817.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0b414926dc98d5b8fcff145b35a8eb69@xs4all.nl> Found some info in the service manual: RP-53 Record/Playback Head Ass'y: A30101001 - A30110100 RP-8L record/playback head ass'y: A30110101 - Wouter On 2016-05-31 04:08 PM, Wouter Heijke via Naktalk wrote: > Indeed! Interesting reading! > > Wouter > > On 2016-05-31 03:35 PM, shanti ramachandran via Naktalk wrote: >> That explains the 580. Interesting. >> >> Ram. >> >> On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 8:33 AM, Henk Schenk via Naktalk >> wrote: >> >> Hi Folks, >> >> I seem to own both versions 580. >> - 580 Sr No A301 07239 , no pressure pad lifter >> - 580 Sr No A301 08733 , copper coloured pressure pad lifter >> Both 580 have a tape guide on the left pressure roller carrier, but >> not on the right hand side. >> The right hand pressure roller carrier is simpler and different in >> shape than the ones in 581 and 582 machines. >> >> All my 581 and 582 machines have a right hand side tape guide, which >> might be needed for aligning the three head set up. >> >> All my 581 and 582 machines have a stainless steel coloured pressure >> pad lifter. >> >> Regards, >> Henk Schenk >> >> ======================================================== >> Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:40:17 +0200 >> From: Wouter Heijke via Naktalk >> To: naktalk at naks.com >> Subject: [naktalk] 580 >> Message-ID: <511fe13cc4dffe3b89c650711e1153bf at xs4all.nl> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> >> Hey All, >> >> I recently became the owner of a 580, so not the 580M. >> For long the website list this deck as having NO pressure pad lifter >> and >> having NO (manual) bias calibration. >> I soon found that it does have manual bias calibration, it does lack >> the >> 15khz tone generator, sadly... >> Now I also see mine has a pressure pad lifter, it seems from a 1000zxl >> ltd because of its goldish color! >> >> Does anyone else have a 580? Can you check if yours has the pad >> lifter? >> I remember making this specific change once to the website because >> someone pointed this 'error' out to me, but I now wonder if mine has a >> pad lifter installed after it left the factory or they all have it? >> >> Wouter From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue May 31 23:47:41 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?b?Sm95LUVsbCAmIFJhaW5lcg==?= via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 15:47:41 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] 580 pressure pad lifter In-Reply-To: <0b414926dc98d5b8fcff145b35a8eb69@xs4all.nl> References: <998649935.2302911.1464701758817.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <0b414926dc98d5b8fcff145b35a8eb69@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20160531154741.fbm7r5evsck8c4c8@webmail.sasktel.net> If anybody needs some 582 parts I have a parts deck.   Cheers, Rainer On Tue, 31 May 2016 19:23:30 +0200, Wouter Heijke via Naktalk wrote: Found some info in the service manual: RP-53 Record/Playback Head Ass'y: A30101001 - A30110100 RP-8L record/playback head ass'y: A30110101 - Wouter On 2016-05-31 04:08 PM, Wouter Heijke via Naktalk wrote: > Indeed! Interesting reading! > > Wouter > > On 2016-05-31 03:35 PM, shanti ramachandran via Naktalk wrote: >> That explains the 580. Interesting. >> >> Ram. >> >> On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 8:33 AM, Henk Schenk via Naktalk >> wrote: >> >> Hi Folks, >> >> I seem to own both versions 580. >> - 580 Sr No A301 07239 , no pressure pad lifter >> - 580 Sr No A301 08733 , copper coloured pressure pad lifter >> Both 580 have a tape guide on the left pressure roller carrier, but >> not on the right hand side. >> The right hand pressure roller carrier is simpler and different in >> shape than the ones in 581 and 582 machines. >> >> All my 581 and 582 machines have a right hand side tape guide, which >> might be needed for aligning the three head set up. >> >> All my 581 and 582 machines have a stainless steel coloured pressure >> pad lifter. >> >> Regards, >> Henk Schenk >> >> ======================================================== >> Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 21:40:17 +0200 >> From: Wouter Heijke via Naktalk To: naktalk at naks.com >> Subject: [naktalk] 580 >> Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> >> Hey All, >> >> I recently became the owner of a 580, so not the 580M. >> For long the website list this deck as having NO pressure pad lifter >> and >> having NO (manual) bias calibration. >> I soon found that it does have manual bias calibration, it does lack >> the >> 15khz tone generator, sadly... >> Now I also see mine has a pressure pad lifter, it seems from a 1000zxl >> ltd because of its goldish color! >> >> Does anyone else have a 580? Can you check if yours has the pad >> lifter? >> I remember making this specific change once to the website because >> someone pointed this 'error' out to me, but I now wonder if mine has a >> pad lifter installed after it left the factory or they all have it? >> >> Wouter ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have one for you Willy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Nov 13 19:54:33 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Brian 1234 via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 18:54:33 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] In quest of Dragon AP Drive Plate In-Reply-To: References: <5821E190.1070508@gmail.com>, Message-ID: Thanks for the reply. I am so sorry to reply this late but I am in the middle of moving and finding a new Internet provider. I really want that piece. When I get settled I'll contact you. I am in Penticton BC. Where are you located. My landline number is 2504939232. .or I can phone you. .. Thanks again and please I hope we can keep in touch regarding the piece. ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Willy Hermann via Naktalk Sent: November 8, 2016 8:49:05 AM To: bb; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] In quest of Dragon AP Drive Plate I'm contacting you off NakTalk. I have one for you Willy From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Nov 13 20:54:51 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Brian 1234 via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 19:54:51 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] In quest of Dragon AP Drive Plate In-Reply-To: References: <5821E190.1070508@gmail.com>, Message-ID: Willie..I now see the part you have is for the Dragon not my RX 505. .sorry for the mixup. ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Willy Hermann via Naktalk Sent: November 8, 2016 8:49:05 AM To: bb; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] In quest of Dragon AP Drive Plate I'm contacting you off NakTalk. I have one for you Willy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Nov 13 21:00:31 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Willy Hermann via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 12:00:31 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] In quest of Dragon AP Drive Plate In-Reply-To: References: <5821E190.1070508@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have been emailing back and forth with Bernard. Are you the same person? Willy ​ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Nov 13 22:47:48 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (bb via Naktalk) Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 22:47:48 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] In quest of Dragon AP Drive Plate In-Reply-To: References: <5821E190.1070508@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5828DF84.10609@gmail.com> Willy, No, he is not! and I do not understand on eword about this story of RX-505... I, am Bernard and your last email (09/11/2016 01:24) was about my "interesting project". Cheers Bernard Willy Hermann via Naktalk a écrit : > I have been emailing back and forth with Bernard. Are you the same > person? > Willy > ​ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Nov 14 19:57:55 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Frederick Lifton via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 10:57:55 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Sony TC-K81 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <291D09D6-5910-4A96-B1E7-0CA92AF34BD4@mac.com> Hi Nakkers, Emerging from a long lurk to see if anyone wants my old Sony TC-K81. It’s not running, so this would be a parts deck or project. I believe there is a broken part in the transport, but I can’t remember what it is. Cosmetically it is good to very good condition. I’ll send to anyone in the US for just the cost of shipping. regards, Fred From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Nov 15 00:51:23 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Yuri Regelman via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 15:51:23 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head Message-ID: Hello fellow Naktalker's. I'm hoping someone can help me find a replacement 680zx playback head. I'd be happy to buy it outright or trade some other Nak parts that may be of interest to you. I've been restoring a 680zx for some time now, and the latest hurdle I've run into is really poor HF response. I've isolated it to the playback head, spent some time looking for a parts deck, and when I finally got one, it too had a problem, only this time one of the channels in the playback head was open.. 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All the best Bernard From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Nov 16 18:35:45 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Yuri Regelman via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 09:35:45 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head Message-ID: My apologies if I'm double-posting here, but I think my original message did not go through, so here I go again: Hello fellow Naktalkers. I'm hoping someone can help me find a replacement 680zx playback head. I'd be happy to buy it outright or trade some other Nak parts that may be of interest to you. I've been restoring a 680zx for some time now, and the latest hurdle I've run into is really poor HF response. I've isolated it to the playback head, spent some time looking for a parts deck, and when I finally got one, it too had a problem, only this time one of the channels in the playback head was open.. Arrrghh!!! :( Hopefully someone on this list has a spare in a good condition that they are willing to part with. 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I've been restoring a 680zx for some time now, and the latest hurdle I've run into is really poor HF response.  I've isolated it to the playback head, spent some time looking for a parts deck, and when I finally got one, it too had a problem, only this time one of the channels in the playback head was open.. Arrrghh!!! :(  Hopefully someone on this list has a spare in a good condition that they are willing to part with. Thanks in advance,Yuri ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Nov 16 19:39:30 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Yuri Regelman via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 10:39:30 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head In-Reply-To: <2118957360.1552004.1479319848275@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2118957360.1552004.1479319848275@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Bob, I think CD 1.5 uses different heads. I believe it is a later Sankyo transport based deck while 680zx is a "classic" transport deck. Other classic transport 3 head decks use similar heads which could work and I would gladly go for one of those, but for some reason the part numbers for 680zx heads are different. I believe, this has something to do with slightly different mounting and that the 680 and 680zx heads were hand selected to provide 15kHz response at half speed. Thanks! Yuri On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Bob Naylor wrote: > Is that the same playback head as a "cassette deck 1.5"? > Bob N > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Yuri Regelman via Naktalk > *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:35 AM > *Subject:* [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head > > My apologies if I'm double-posting here, but I think my original message > did not go through, so here I go again: > > Hello fellow Naktalkers. > I'm hoping someone can help me find a replacement 680zx playback head. > I'd be happy to buy it outright or trade some other Nak parts that may be > of interest to you. > > I've been restoring a 680zx for some time now, and the latest hurdle I've > run into is really poor HF response. I've isolated it to the playback > head, spent some time looking for a parts deck, and when I finally got one, > it too had a problem, only this time one of the channels in the playback > head was open.. Arrrghh!!! :( > > Hopefully someone on this list has a spare in a good condition that they > are willing to part with. > > Thanks in advance, > Yuri > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Nov 16 19:43:10 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (N.van.wijnen@ziggo.nl via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 19:43:10 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head In-Reply-To: References: <2118957360.1552004.1479319848275@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4369AEC2-610F-40FB-87FC-EC37DE9E5A39@ziggo.nl> Hi Yuri, I recently rebuild a 680zx and i had the same problem, a broken playback head. I mounted a head from a 582 and it works fine, also 15 khz on half the speed. Mounting is the same. Best regards Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 16 nov. 2016 om 19:39 heeft Yuri Regelman via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: > > Hi Bob, > I think CD 1.5 uses different heads. I believe it is a later Sankyo transport based deck while 680zx is a "classic" transport deck. > Other classic transport 3 head decks use similar heads which could work and I would gladly go for one of those, but for some reason the part numbers for 680zx heads are different. > I believe, this has something to do with slightly different mounting and that the 680 and 680zx heads were hand selected to provide 15kHz response at half speed. > Thanks! > Yuri > > >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Bob Naylor wrote: >> Is that the same playback head as a "cassette deck 1.5"? >> Bob N >> >> >> From: Yuri Regelman via Naktalk >> To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:35 AM >> Subject: [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head >> >> My apologies if I'm double-posting here, but I think my original message did not go through, so here I go again: >> >> Hello fellow Naktalkers. >> I'm hoping someone can help me find a replacement 680zx playback head. I'd be happy to buy it outright or trade some other Nak parts that may be of interest to you. >> >> I've been restoring a 680zx for some time now, and the latest hurdle I've run into is really poor HF response. I've isolated it to the playback head, spent some time looking for a parts deck, and when I finally got one, it too had a problem, only this time one of the channels in the playback head was open.. Arrrghh!!! :( >> >> Hopefully someone on this list has a spare in a good condition that they are willing to part with. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Yuri >> >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Nov 16 20:40:02 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Yuri Regelman via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 11:40:02 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head In-Reply-To: <4369AEC2-610F-40FB-87FC-EC37DE9E5A39@ziggo.nl> References: <2118957360.1552004.1479319848275@mail.yahoo.com> <4369AEC2-610F-40FB-87FC-EC37DE9E5A39@ziggo.nl> Message-ID: Hi Norman, This sounds very reassuring! Thank you for confirming! Yuri On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 10:43 AM, N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl < n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl> wrote: > Hi Yuri, > I recently rebuild a 680zx and i had the same problem, a broken playback > head. > I mounted a head from a 582 and it works fine, also 15 khz on half the > speed. > Mounting is the same. > Best regards > Norman > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > > Op 16 nov. 2016 om 19:39 heeft Yuri Regelman via Naktalk < > naktalk at lists.naks.com> het volgende geschreven: > > Hi Bob, > I think CD 1.5 uses different heads. I believe it is a later Sankyo > transport based deck while 680zx is a "classic" transport deck. > Other classic transport 3 head decks use similar heads which could work > and I would gladly go for one of those, but for some reason the part > numbers for 680zx heads are different. > I believe, this has something to do with slightly different mounting and > that the 680 and 680zx heads were hand selected to provide 15kHz response > at half speed. > Thanks! > Yuri > > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Bob Naylor wrote: > >> Is that the same playback head as a "cassette deck 1.5"? >> Bob N >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Yuri Regelman via Naktalk >> *To:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks >> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:35 AM >> *Subject:* [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head >> >> My apologies if I'm double-posting here, but I think my original message >> did not go through, so here I go again: >> >> Hello fellow Naktalkers. >> I'm hoping someone can help me find a replacement 680zx playback head. >> I'd be happy to buy it outright or trade some other Nak parts that may be >> of interest to you. >> >> I've been restoring a 680zx for some time now, and the latest hurdle I've >> run into is really poor HF response. I've isolated it to the playback >> head, spent some time looking for a parts deck, and when I finally got one, >> it too had a problem, only this time one of the channels in the playback >> head was open.. Arrrghh!!! :( >> >> Hopefully someone on this list has a spare in a good condition that they >> are willing to part with. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Yuri >> >> ========---------------------------------------------------- >> -----========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------- >> -----========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/ >> listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------- >> -----========= >> >> > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Nov 16 21:51:22 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (avss01 via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 06:51:22 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head In-Reply-To: References: <2118957360.1552004.1479319848275@mail.yahoo.com> <4369AEC2-610F-40FB-87FC-EC37DE9E5A39@ziggo.nl> Message-ID: Hi Yuri > I too have successfully transplanted a head from a 582 into a 670ZX with excellent results. Assume you have swapped channels right at the head to reach your diagnosis along with attention to tape path. I had response problems on one channel too and had trouble believing it was the head.....but yes, it definitely was. David -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Nov 16 22:32:12 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Yuri Regelman via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 13:32:12 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head In-Reply-To: References: <2118957360.1552004.1479319848275@mail.yahoo.com> <4369AEC2-610F-40FB-87FC-EC37DE9E5A39@ziggo.nl> Message-ID: Hi David, Did all the usual troubleshooting, swapping channels, cleaning the head, removing the pad lifter, verifying levels with reference tapes, etc.. I'm very sure the head is the culprit. Thanks for confirming the 582 head compatibility as well. Yuri On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, avss01 wrote: > > > Hi Yuri >> > I too have successfully transplanted a head from a 582 into a 670ZX with > excellent results. Assume you have swapped channels right at the head to > reach your diagnosis along with attention to tape path. I had response > problems on one channel too and had trouble believing it was the > head.....but yes, it definitely was. > > David > > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Nov 17 01:14:33 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Yuri Regelman via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 16:14:33 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head In-Reply-To: References: <2118957360.1552004.1479319848275@mail.yahoo.com> <4369AEC2-610F-40FB-87FC-EC37DE9E5A39@ziggo.nl> Message-ID: Hi Ken, That would be great! I just sent you a direct e-mail. Thanks, Yuri On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Ken Mashlan wrote: > I have a 660 which I can probably part out. I am in New Zealand, but > postage of a head should be cheap. > > > > Ken > > > > *From:* Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] *On Behalf Of *Yuri > Regelman via Naktalk > *Sent:* Thursday, 17 November 2016 10:32 AM > *To:* avss01 > *Cc:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head > > > > Hi David, > > Did all the usual troubleshooting, swapping channels, cleaning the head, > removing the pad lifter, verifying levels with reference tapes, etc.. I'm > very sure the head is the culprit. Thanks for confirming the 582 head > compatibility as well. > > Yuri > > > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, avss01 wrote: > > > > Hi Yuri > > I too have successfully transplanted a head from a 582 into a 670ZX with > excellent results. Assume you have swapped channels right at the head to > reach your diagnosis along with attention to tape path. I had response > problems on one channel too and had trouble believing it was the > head.....but yes, it definitely was. > > > > David > > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Nov 17 03:15:32 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 02:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head In-Reply-To: References: <2118957360.1552004.1479319848275@mail.yahoo.com> <4369AEC2-610F-40FB-87FC-EC37DE9E5A39@ziggo.nl> Message-ID: <670669969.2002063.1479348932860@mail.yahoo.com> Yuri, Looks like it will work out for you! Great! Let us know how you do.Bob From: Yuri Regelman via Naktalk To: Ken Mashlan Cc: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; avss01 Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head Hi Ken,That would be great!  I just sent you a direct e-mail.Thanks,Yuri On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Ken Mashlan wrote: I have a 660 which I can probably part out.  I am in New Zealand, but postage of a head should be cheap.  Ken From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists. naks.com]On Behalf Of Yuri Regelman via Naktalk Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2016 10:32 AM To: avss01 Cc: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head Hi David,Did all the usual troubleshooting, swapping channels, cleaning the head, removing the pad lifter, verifying levels with reference tapes, etc.. I'm very sure the head is the culprit.  Thanks for confirming the 582 head compatibility as well.Yuri On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, avss01 wrote:   Hi Yuri I too have successfully transplanted a head from a 582 into a  670ZX with excellent results.  Assume you have swapped channels right at the head to reach your diagnosis along with attention to tape path.  I had response problems on one channel too and had trouble believing it was the head.....but yes, it definitely was. David -- Sent from Gmail Mobile   ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Nov 17 01:03:52 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ken Mashlan via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 00:03:52 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head In-Reply-To: References: <2118957360.1552004.1479319848275@mail.yahoo.com> <4369AEC2-610F-40FB-87FC-EC37DE9E5A39@ziggo.nl> Message-ID: I have a 660 which I can probably part out. I am in New Zealand, but postage of a head should be cheap. Ken From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Yuri Regelman via Naktalk Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2016 10:32 AM To: avss01 Cc: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head Hi David, Did all the usual troubleshooting, swapping channels, cleaning the head, removing the pad lifter, verifying levels with reference tapes, etc.. I'm very sure the head is the culprit. Thanks for confirming the 582 head compatibility as well. Yuri On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, avss01 > wrote: Hi Yuri I too have successfully transplanted a head from a 582 into a 670ZX with excellent results. Assume you have swapped channels right at the head to reach your diagnosis along with attention to tape path. I had response problems on one channel too and had trouble believing it was the head.....but yes, it definitely was. David -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Nov 17 08:37:09 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Mike S via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 07:37:09 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamich CD players Message-ID: I have an OMS 5 and an OMS7. Both now have dead lasers....seems a shame to put them into land fill as they are otherwise in perfect condition. Does anyone have any ideas for new lasers? I also have an OMS1 which is working....is it possible to swap the laser to the OMS7?? Otherwise anyone looking for parts for these? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Nov 17 08:52:10 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Wouter Heijke via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 08:52:10 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamich CD players In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6fede98ac867743aa1e3741e463a5ad4@xs4all.nl> Hi Mike, Nice players, but problematic yes. I also have a non-working OMS7, still need to spend time on it, but very well build machines. Anyway, land fill, NOOOO! There must be someone you can make happy with these. And OMS-1 is much newer, different player, laser unit is also completely different... that is also the OMS5/7 problem, they use a not so common laser unit. Wouter On 2016-11-17 08:37 AM, Mike S via Naktalk wrote: > I have an OMS 5 and an OMS7. Both now have dead lasers....seems a > shame to put them into land fill as they are otherwise in perfect > condition. Does anyone have any ideas for new lasers? I also have an > OMS1 which is working....is it possible to swap the laser to the > OMS7?? Otherwise anyone looking for parts for these? From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Nov 17 11:11:21 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bala Ganesh via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 20:11:21 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamich CD players In-Reply-To: <6fede98ac867743aa1e3741e463a5ad4@xs4all.nl> References: <6fede98ac867743aa1e3741e463a5ad4@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: Hi did we confirm them being dead lasers? Do they not emit a laser beam at all? Kind Regards, Bala Ganesh > On 17 Nov. 2016, at 5:52 pm, Wouter Heijke via Naktalk wrote: > > Hi Mike, > Nice players, but problematic yes. I also have a non-working OMS7, still need to spend time on it, but very well build machines. > Anyway, land fill, NOOOO! There must be someone you can make happy with these. > And OMS-1 is much newer, different player, laser unit is also completely different... that is also the OMS5/7 problem, they use a not so common laser unit. > > Wouter > >> On 2016-11-17 08:37 AM, Mike S via Naktalk wrote: >> I have an OMS 5 and an OMS7. Both now have dead lasers....seems a >> shame to put them into land fill as they are otherwise in perfect >> condition. Does anyone have any ideas for new lasers? I also have an >> OMS1 which is working....is it possible to swap the laser to the >> OMS7?? Otherwise anyone looking for parts for these? > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Nov 17 11:50:40 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?UTF-8?Q?DANIEL_BEVANDI=C3=86?= via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:50:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Nakamich CD players In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1511768767.1905166.1479379840754@mail.yahoo.com> Offtopic. Im selling Nak Cd Player 3 with the remote from CD4. Laser (kss210)  is good, reads everything fast. Im selling it for 80 euro (around 90 bucks). 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Nov 17 16:15:19 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Yuri Regelman via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 07:15:19 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head In-Reply-To: <670669969.2002063.1479348932860@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2118957360.1552004.1479319848275@mail.yahoo.com> <4369AEC2-610F-40FB-87FC-EC37DE9E5A39@ziggo.nl> <670669969.2002063.1479348932860@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Bob, Fingers crossed! :) I really want to get this deck back to spec. I'll keep everyone posted! Yuri On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Bob Naylor wrote: > Yuri, Looks like it will work out for you! Great! Let us know how you do. > Bob > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Yuri Regelman via Naktalk > *To:* Ken Mashlan > *Cc:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks ; > avss01 > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2016 4:14 PM > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head > > Hi Ken, > That would be great! I just sent you a direct e-mail. > Thanks, > Yuri > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Ken Mashlan > wrote: > > I have a 660 which I can probably part out. I am in New Zealand, but > postage of a head should be cheap. > > Ken > > *From:* Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists. naks.com > ] *On Behalf Of *Yuri Regelman via Naktalk > *Sent:* Thursday, 17 November 2016 10:32 AM > *To:* avss01 > *Cc:* Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Looking for 680zx playback head > > Hi David, > Did all the usual troubleshooting, swapping channels, cleaning the head, > removing the pad lifter, verifying levels with reference tapes, etc.. I'm > very sure the head is the culprit. Thanks for confirming the 582 head > compatibility as well. > Yuri > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, avss01 wrote: > > > > Hi Yuri > > I too have successfully transplanted a head from a 582 into a 670ZX with > excellent results. Assume you have swapped channels right at the head to > reach your diagnosis along with attention to tape path. I had response > problems on one channel too and had trouble believing it was the > head.....but yes, it definitely was. > > David > > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Nov 17 19:32:01 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Robert Schneider via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 12:32:01 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamich CD players In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: These players have a ton of adjustments, both mechanical on the transport, and electrical on the circuit board. If the player just isn't reading CDs, check the settings - the procedures are in the service manual. There was also a service bulletin with modifications to these players, to make them more tolerant of less than perfect discs. That service bulletin in the files section of Naks.com. If your deck hasn't had the mods done, apply those first. On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Mike S via Naktalk wrote: > I have an OMS 5 and an OMS7. Both now have dead lasers....seems a shame to > put them into land fill as they are otherwise in perfect condition. Does > anyone have any ideas for new lasers? I also have an OMS1 which is > working....is it possible to swap the laser to the OMS7?? Otherwise > anyone looking for parts for these? > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Nov 22 11:41:37 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Norman van Wijnen via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 11:41:37 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Cassettedoor for a 1000zxl, 700zxl or 700zxe Message-ID: <00C80B14-28B2-4841-882E-8B0DE5777305@gmail.com> Hi guys, Is there someone who has this part somewhere on the shelf? Or a complete transport or something like that? I am restoring a 700zxe and the complete cassetteholder is ruined. It is the same as the one for a 1000zxl and a 700zxl. Best regards, Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Nov 22 11:47:01 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (N.van.wijnen@ziggo.nl via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 11:47:01 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Cassettedoor for a 1000zxl, 700zxl or 700zxe In-Reply-To: <00C80B14-28B2-4841-882E-8B0DE5777305@gmail.com> References: <00C80B14-28B2-4841-882E-8B0DE5777305@gmail.com> Message-ID: <89C15E7D-A055-4A63-9F49-04E3B3F73555@ziggo.nl> A picture of the part needed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image1.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1342324 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 22 nov. 2016 om 11:41 heeft Norman van Wijnen via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: > > Hi guys, > Is there someone who has this part somewhere on the shelf? Or a complete transport or something like that? > I am restoring a 700zxe and the complete cassetteholder is ruined. It is the same as the one for a 1000zxl and a 700zxl. > Best regards, > Norman > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Nov 22 12:44:17 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bala Ganesh via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 21:44:17 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Cassettedoor for a 1000zxl, 700zxl or 700zxe In-Reply-To: <89C15E7D-A055-4A63-9F49-04E3B3F73555@ziggo.nl> References: <00C80B14-28B2-4841-882E-8B0DE5777305@gmail.com> <89C15E7D-A055-4A63-9F49-04E3B3F73555@ziggo.nl> Message-ID: 3D printing Norman? Kind Regards, Bala Ganesh > On 22 Nov. 2016, at 8:47 pm, N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk wrote: > > A picture of the part needed > > > > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > >> Op 22 nov. 2016 om 11:41 heeft Norman van Wijnen via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: >> >> Hi guys, >> Is there someone who has this part somewhere on the shelf? Or a complete transport or something like that? >> I am restoring a 700zxe and the complete cassetteholder is ruined. It is the same as the one for a 1000zxl and a 700zxl. >> Best regards, >> Norman >> >> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Nov 23 09:07:32 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ken Mashlan via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 08:07:32 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Cassettedoor for a 1000zxl, 700zxl or 700zxe In-Reply-To: <89C15E7D-A055-4A63-9F49-04E3B3F73555@ziggo.nl> References: <00C80B14-28B2-4841-882E-8B0DE5777305@gmail.com> <89C15E7D-A055-4A63-9F49-04E3B3F73555@ziggo.nl> Message-ID: I am parting out a 660zx which has a similar door to my 1000zxl, although I am not sure if it is the same. If it fits then I have one. ☺ Ken. From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk Sent: Tuesday, 22 November 2016 11:47 PM To: Norman van Wijnen ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Cassettedoor for a 1000zxl, 700zxl or 700zxe A picture of the part needed [cid:image001.jpg at 01D245CD.85FC6A90] Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 22 nov. 2016 om 11:41 heeft Norman van Wijnen via Naktalk > het volgende geschreven: > > Hi guys, > Is there someone who has this part somewhere on the shelf? Or a complete transport or something like that? > I am restoring a 700zxe and the complete cassetteholder is ruined. It is the same as the one for a 1000zxl and a 700zxl. > Best regards, > Norman > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards, Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 23 nov. 2016 om 09:07 heeft Ken Mashlan het volgende geschreven: > > I am parting out a 660zx which has a similar door to my 1000zxl, although I am not sure if it is the same. > > If it fits then I have one. J > > Ken. > > From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk > Sent: Tuesday, 22 November 2016 11:47 PM > To: Norman van Wijnen ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Cassettedoor for a 1000zxl, 700zxl or 700zxe > > A picture of the part needed > > > > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > > > Op 22 nov. 2016 om 11:41 heeft Norman van Wijnen via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: > > > > Hi guys, > > Is there someone who has this part somewhere on the shelf? Or a complete transport or something like that? > > I am restoring a 700zxe and the complete cassetteholder is ruined. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Nov 25 02:20:54 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 01:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] 1000zxl door vs 700zxl vs 660zx Message-ID: <2029903398.75224798.1480036854245.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Nov 25 11:38:00 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (N.van.wijnen@ziggo.nl via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 11:38:00 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 1000zxl door vs 700zxl vs 660zx In-Reply-To: <2029903398.75224798.1480036854245.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> References: <2029903398.75224798.1480036854245.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Message-ID: Hi Perry, This posting is not about the door cover but about the door itself. Best regards, Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 25 nov. 2016 om 02:20 heeft via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: > > The 1000zxl and 660zx use the same identical thick plexi door with 2 screws. The 700zxl & zxe use a completely different brushed aluminum looking door cover with hooks. Unique to those two decks, AFAIK. > > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Nov 29 05:03:34 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ken Mashlan via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 04:03:34 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Rare but expensive Message-ID: Hi all. Someone (not me) has a couple of sealed Nakamichi tapes for sale - see here... http://www.trademe.co.nz/electronics-photography/home-audio/cassette-decks/auction-1210989424.htm Ken -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Nov 29 21:50:39 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Florin Saceleanu via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 20:50:39 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Volume control on the Nakamichi 730 receiver Message-ID: Does anyone have experience with the Nakamichi 730 receiver? This has a motorized volume control and volume preset. The issue that I have is that the receiver gets way too loud at only 1/10 on the volume scale. I am not sure if this is an issue with calibrating the volume control, or perhaps the pot needs to be cleaned? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Nov 29 23:06:23 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ingemar Lindqvist via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 23:06:23 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Volume control on the Nakamichi 730 receiver Message-ID: Could this be caused by some kind of error in the connections to the vol pot? I have no schematics to this receiver, but if it is the common kind of electromechanic volume potentiometer it might be caused by a missing connection to signal-grounding on the 'lower' part of the vol pot.  Ingemar Lindqvist in Sweden -------- Originalmeddelande --------Från: Florin Saceleanu via Naktalk Datum: 2016-11-29 21:50 (GMT+01:00) Till: naktalk at lists.naks.com Rubrik: [naktalk] Volume control on the Nakamichi 730 receiver Does anyone have experience with the Nakamichi 730 receiver? This has a motorized volume control and volume preset. The issue that I have is that the receiver gets way too loud at only 1/10 on the volume scale. I am not sure if this is an issue with calibrating the volume control, or perhaps the pot needs to be cleaned? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Nov 30 17:23:45 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ron via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Volume control on the Nakamichi 730 receiver In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <153046161.3571056.1480523025532@mail.yahoo.com> I have the Nak RE-2, which is also a receiver with a motorized volume control. Mine arrived with bad 'static' noise, that was traced to bad connection(s) on the Motor Volume PCB. The exact location of the fault was difficult to find, because the noise was intermittent, so I touched up every single solder point on the Motor volume PCB (it's a small PCB and only took a few minuted to do), as well as the Balance PCB, for good measure. This cured the problem to this day. In your case, I suspect you have an open connection on the Volume PCB. Assuming the problem affects both channels, I would suspect the PCB, rather then the control itself. I would touch up every single solder point on that PCB -- it may solve the problem. Good luck, -- Ron From: Florin Saceleanu via Naktalk To: "naktalk at lists.naks.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:50 PM Subject: [naktalk] Volume control on the Nakamichi 730 receiver Does anyone have experience with the Nakamichi 730 receiver? This has a motorized volume control and volume preset. The issue that I have is that the receiver gets way too loud at only 1/10 on the volume scale. I am not sure if this is an issue with calibrating the volume control, or perhaps the pot needs to be cleaned? ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Nov 30 17:23:45 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ron via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Volume control on the Nakamichi 730 receiver In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <153046161.3571056.1480523025532@mail.yahoo.com> I have the Nak RE-2, which is also a receiver with a motorized volume control. Mine arrived with bad 'static' noise, that was traced to bad connection(s) on the Motor Volume PCB. The exact location of the fault was difficult to find, because the noise was intermittent, so I touched up every single solder point on the Motor volume PCB (it's a small PCB and only took a few minuted to do), as well as the Balance PCB, for good measure. This cured the problem to this day. In your case, I suspect you have an open connection on the Volume PCB. Assuming the problem affects both channels, I would suspect the PCB, rather then the control itself. I would touch up every single solder point on that PCB -- it may solve the problem. Good luck, -- Ron From: Florin Saceleanu via Naktalk To: "naktalk at lists.naks.com" Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:50 PM Subject: [naktalk] Volume control on the Nakamichi 730 receiver Does anyone have experience with the Nakamichi 730 receiver? This has a motorized volume control and volume preset. The issue that I have is that the receiver gets way too loud at only 1/10 on the volume scale. I am not sure if this is an issue with calibrating the volume control, or perhaps the pot needs to be cleaned? ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Some people make/made good money of these copies! Wouter On 2016-10-06 03:47 AM, Mark Exstedt via Naktalk wrote: > I believe this is illegal ? > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nakamichi-PA-7-CA-7-CA-5-CR-7-ST-7-owners-manuals-nicely-bounded-1000ZXL-680-/291899348741? > > [1] > > Nakamichi PA-7 CA-7 CA-5 CR-7 ST-7 owner's manuals nicely > bounded 1000ZXL 680 [1] > www.ebay.com > in Consumer Electronics, Vintage Electronics, Vintage Audio & Video > From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Oct 6 09:09:36 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ken Kiesow via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 00:09:36 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Time Message-ID: If I were to offer for sale an RX-505, Dragon, BX-125, and a couple hundred tapes including several Maxell MA-R90s (recorded maybe twice), four unopened TDK SM-X60s, and a large variety of maxell, Memorex, Nakamichi (HD8s) and good grief, every other quality level, would anyone be interested? If so let me know how to PM you and we can discuss. 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Kind Regards, Bala Ganesh > On 6 Oct. 2016, at 5:09 pm, Ken Kiesow via Naktalk wrote: > > If I were to offer for sale an RX-505, Dragon, BX-125, and a couple hundred tapes including several Maxell MA-R90s (recorded maybe twice), four unopened TDK SM-X60s, and a large variety of maxell, Memorex, Nakamichi (HD8s) and good grief, every other quality level, would anyone be interested? > > If so let me know how to PM you and we can discuss. > > Thanks, > > Ken > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Oct 6 10:23:46 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (N.van.wijnen@ziggo.nl via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 10:23:46 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Time In-Reply-To: <7FF15805-C4EC-43BC-A520-D731D91976E2@yahoo.com> References: <7FF15805-C4EC-43BC-A520-D731D91976E2@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <63F5B935-4734-4224-BE18-FBF8F14D3227@ziggo.nl> Hi Ken, What country are you living? Best regards Norman Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 6 okt. 2016 om 09:50 heeft Bala Ganesh via Naktalk het volgende geschreven: > > Hi Ken, > > Please PM me at bg3009 at yahoo.com > Cheers. > > Kind Regards, > Bala Ganesh > >> On 6 Oct. 2016, at 5:09 pm, Ken Kiesow via Naktalk wrote: >> >> If I were to offer for sale an RX-505, Dragon, BX-125, and a couple hundred tapes including several Maxell MA-R90s (recorded maybe twice), four unopened TDK SM-X60s, and a large variety of maxell, Memorex, Nakamichi (HD8s) and good grief, every other quality level, would anyone be interested? >> >> If so let me know how to PM you and we can discuss. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ken >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards Bernard N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk a écrit : > Hi Ken, > What country are you living? > Best regards > Norman > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > > Op 6 okt. 2016 om 09:50 heeft Bala Ganesh via Naktalk > > het volgende > geschreven: > >> Hi Ken, >> >> Please PM me at bg3009 at yahoo.com >> Cheers. >> >> Kind Regards, >> Bala Ganesh >> >> On 6 Oct. 2016, at 5:09 pm, Ken Kiesow via Naktalk >> > wrote: >> >>> If I were to offer for sale an RX-505, Dragon, BX-125, and a couple >>> hundred tapes including several Maxell MA-R90s (recorded maybe >>> twice), four unopened TDK SM-X60s, and a large variety of maxell, >>> Memorex, Nakamichi (HD8s) and good grief, every other quality level, >>> would anyone be interested? >>> >>> >>> >>> If so let me know how to PM you and we can discuss. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> Ken >>> >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> Naktalk at lists.naks.com >>> mailinglist >>> Maintain your account here: >>> http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com >> mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: >> http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Oct 6 13:30:55 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ingemar Lindqvist via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2016 13:30:55 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Photo Copies of Nak Gear on Ebay for $ Message-ID: Of course this is illegal, a copyright crime.However, I think that if they make very ambitious work making the copies, and don't make too much money on it, they provide a service that is good for us Nakamichi fans. Ingemar -------- Originalmeddelande --------Från: Wouter Heijke via Naktalk Datum: 2016-10-06 08:25 (GMT+01:00) Till: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Rubrik: Re: [naktalk] Photo Copies of Nak Gear on Ebay for $ Who knows... But it has been going on for many, many, many years! Some people make/made good money of these copies! Wouter On 2016-10-06 03:47 AM, Mark Exstedt via Naktalk wrote: > I believe this is illegal ? > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nakamichi-PA-7-CA-7-CA-5-CR-7-ST-7-owners-manuals-nicely-bounded-1000ZXL-680-/291899348741? > >  [1] > >  Nakamichi PA-7 CA-7 CA-5 CR-7 ST-7 owner's manuals nicely > bounded 1000ZXL 680 [1] >  www.ebay.com >  in Consumer Electronics, Vintage Electronics, Vintage Audio & Video > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Oct 6 14:12:33 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (shanti ramachandran via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 12:12:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Time In-Reply-To: <57F613C4.1000207@gmail.com> References: <7FF15805-C4EC-43BC-A520-D731D91976E2@yahoo.com> <63F5B935-4734-4224-BE18-FBF8F14D3227@ziggo.nl> <57F613C4.1000207@gmail.com> Message-ID: <734622808.2441659.1475755953713@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Ken, PM me at shantiram2000 at yahoo.com if still available. Thanks.  Ram. >> On 6 Oct. 2016, at 5:09 pm, Ken Kiesow via Naktalk >> > wrote: >> >>> If I were to offer for sale an RX-505, Dragon, BX-125, and a couple >>> hundred tapes including several Maxell MA-R90s (recorded maybe >>> twice), four unopened TDK SM-X60s, and a large variety of maxell, >>> Memorex, Nakamichi (HD8s) and good grief, every other quality level, >>> would anyone be interested? >>> >>>  >>> >>> If so let me know how to PM you and we can discuss. >>> >>>  >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>>  >>> >>> Ken >>> >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>>                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com >>> mailinglist >>> Maintain your account here: >>> http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com >> mailinglist >> Maintain your account here: >> http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >          Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >                        Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Oct 6 17:48:16 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ken Kiesow via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 08:48:16 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Time In-Reply-To: <57F613C4.1000207@gmail.com> References: <7FF15805-C4EC-43BC-A520-D731D91976E2@yahoo.com> <63F5B935-4734-4224-BE18-FBF8F14D3227@ziggo.nl> <57F613C4.1000207@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm in the Seattle, Washington area, US. -----Original Message----- From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of bb via Naktalk Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 2:05 AM To: n.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Time Hi Ken, Yes, I would be interested but where are you located ? I am in France. Regards Bernard N.van.wijnen at ziggo.nl via Naktalk a écrit : > Hi Ken, > What country are you living? > Best regards > Norman > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > > Op 6 okt. 2016 om 09:50 heeft Bala Ganesh via Naktalk > > het volgende > geschreven: > >> Hi Ken, >> >> Please PM me at bg3009 at yahoo.com >> Cheers. >> >> Kind Regards, >> Bala Ganesh >> >> On 6 Oct. 2016, at 5:09 pm, Ken Kiesow via Naktalk >> > wrote: >> >>> If I were to offer for sale an RX-505, Dragon, BX-125, and a couple >>> hundred tapes including several Maxell MA-R90s (recorded maybe >>> twice), four unopened TDK SM-X60s, and a large variety of maxell, >>> Memorex, Nakamichi (HD8s) and good grief, every other quality level, >>> would anyone be interested? >>> >>> >>> >>> If so let me know how to PM you and we can discuss. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> Ken >>> >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >>> Naktalk at lists.naks.com >>> mailinglist Maintain your account >>> here: >>> http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >>> ========---------------------------------------------------------=== >>> ====== >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com >> ========---------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk at lists.naks.com >> mailinglist Maintain your account >> here: >> http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk >> ========---------------------------------------------------------==== >> ===== > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain > your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------===== > ==== ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Oct 6 20:30:54 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Bob Naylor via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 18:30:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [naktalk] Photo Copies of Nak Gear on Ebay for $ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <844412668.4515930.1475778654744@mail.yahoo.com> Are copyright laws indefinite? In other words, does it expire after "x" amount of years?Bob N From: Ingemar Lindqvist via Naktalk To: Wouter Heijke ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 4:30 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Photo Copies of Nak Gear on Ebay for $ Of course this is illegal, a copyright crime.However, I think that if they make very ambitious work making the copies, and don't make too much money on it, they provide a service that is good for us Nakamichi fans. Ingemar -------- Originalmeddelande --------Från: Wouter Heijke via Naktalk Datum: 2016-10-06 08:25 (GMT+01:00) Till: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Rubrik: Re: [naktalk] Photo Copies of Nak Gear on Ebay for $ Who knows... But it has been going on for many, many, many years! Some people make/made good money of these copies! Wouter On 2016-10-06 03:47 AM, Mark Exstedt via Naktalk wrote: > I believe this is illegal ? > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nakamichi-PA-7-CA-7-CA-5-CR-7-ST-7-owners-manuals-nicely-bounded-1000ZXL-680-/291899348741? > >  [1] > >  Nakamichi PA-7 CA-7 CA-5 CR-7 ST-7 owner's manuals nicely > bounded 1000ZXL 680 [1] >  www.ebay.com >  in Consumer Electronics, Vintage Electronics, Vintage Audio & Video > ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------=========           Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------=========                         Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Fri Oct 7 08:14:45 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ingemar Lindqvist via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 08:14:45 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Photo Copies of Nak Gear on Ebay for $ In-Reply-To: <844412668.4515930.1475778654744@mail.yahoo.com> References: <844412668.4515930.1475778654744@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Perhaps one can say that this is generally depending on if the owner of the work still protects their rights. To the brand name Nakamichi, and the public memory among the public about the top quality products of Nakamichi, I guess it is only for the good that private persons does this "help". As long as Nakamichi doesn't sell printed handbooks any more for the products they made decades ago, and it seems that they don't sell them. It is a matter of what legal actions Nakamichi would do about it. I wrote a message to Nakamichi to ask them about this. I hope I will receive an answer, and if I do I will write about it on Nak talk. Ingemar (Sweden) 2016-10-06 20:30 GMT+02:00 Bob Naylor : > Are copyright laws indefinite? In other words, does it expire after "x" > amount of years? > Bob N > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ingemar Lindqvist via Naktalk > *To:* Wouter Heijke ; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette > Decks > *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 4:30 AM > *Subject:* Re: [naktalk] Photo Copies of Nak Gear on Ebay for $ > > Of course this is illegal, a copyright crime. > However, I think that if they make very ambitious work making the copies, > and don't make too much money on it, they provide a service that is good > for us Nakamichi fans. > > Ingemar > > -------- Originalmeddelande -------- > Från: Wouter Heijke via Naktalk > Datum: 2016-10-06 08:25 (GMT+01:00) > Till: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Rubrik: Re: [naktalk] Photo Copies of Nak Gear on Ebay for $ > > Who knows... > But it has been going on for many, many, many years! > Some people make/made good money of these copies! > > Wouter > > On 2016-10-06 03:47 AM, Mark Exstedt via Naktalk wrote: > > I believe this is illegal ? > > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nakamichi-PA-7-CA-7-CA-5-CR-7- > ST-7-owners-manuals-nicely-bounded-1000ZXL-680-/291899348741? > > > > [1] > > > > Nakamichi PA-7 CA-7 CA-5 CR-7 ST-7 owner's manuals nicely > > bounded 1000ZXL 680 [1] > > www.ebay.com > > in Consumer Electronics, Vintage Electronics, Vintage Audio & Video > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sat Oct 8 01:59:52 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Mark Exstedt via Naktalk) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 23:59:52 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Photo Copies of Nak Gear on Ebay for $ In-Reply-To: References: <844412668.4515930.1475778654744@mail.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: Cool. I wrote to two companies in the past where I could buy replacement parts and they mailed them to me for free. Amazing ! ________________________________ From: Naktalk on behalf of Ingemar Lindqvist via Naktalk Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 12:14 AM To: Bob Naylor Cc: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: Re: [naktalk] Photo Copies of Nak Gear on Ebay for $ Hi Perhaps one can say that this is generally depending on if the owner of the work still protects their rights. To the brand name Nakamichi, and the public memory among the public about the top quality products of Nakamichi, I guess it is only for the good that private persons does this "help". As long as Nakamichi doesn't sell printed handbooks any more for the products they made decades ago, and it seems that they don't sell them. It is a matter of what legal actions Nakamichi would do about it. I wrote a message to Nakamichi to ask them about this. I hope I will receive an answer, and if I do I will write about it on Nak talk. Ingemar (Sweden) 2016-10-06 20:30 GMT+02:00 Bob Naylor >: Are copyright laws indefinite? In other words, does it expire after "x" amount of years? Bob N ________________________________ From: Ingemar Lindqvist via Naktalk > To: Wouter Heijke >; Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 4:30 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Photo Copies of Nak Gear on Ebay for $ Of course this is illegal, a copyright crime. However, I think that if they make very ambitious work making the copies, and don't make too much money on it, they provide a service that is good for us Nakamichi fans. Ingemar -------- Originalmeddelande -------- Från: Wouter Heijke via Naktalk > Datum: 2016-10-06 08:25 (GMT+01:00) Till: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Rubrik: Re: [naktalk] Photo Copies of Nak Gear on Ebay for $ Who knows... But it has been going on for many, many, many years! Some people make/made good money of these copies! Wouter On 2016-10-06 03:47 AM, Mark Exstedt via Naktalk wrote: > I believe this is illegal ? > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nakamichi-PA-7-CA-7-CA-5-CR-7-ST-7-owners-manuals-nicely-bounded-1000ZXL-680-/291899348741? > > [1] > > Nakamichi PA-7 CA-7 CA-5 CR-7 ST-7 owner's manuals nicely > bounded 1000ZXL 680 [1] > www.ebay.com > in Consumer Electronics, Vintage Electronics, Vintage Audio & Video > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Sun Oct 9 02:00:22 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (=?utf-8?b?Sm95LUVsbCAmIFJhaW5lcg==?= via Naktalk) Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2016 18:00:22 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] RX 505 parts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20161008180022.tyxb9gnq0w8w08go@webmail.sasktel.net> Hi Brian, I might be able to help you out. I bought a kit from a fellow naktalker that gets rid of the window and I think the piece that you need. If that's the case you might want convert with the kit or I might have that part available when I convert mine.   Cheers Rainer s.  (80stech)  On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 15:48:53 +0000, Brian 1234 via Naktalk wrote:   I have a RX-505 .Bought it new in 1985 and it worked like a charm until I tripped and broke the tray that the clear plastic window sits on. I need the CAT HAO4564A ass'y.... The link provided the part is on page 15....part 03.....   http://pcbunn.cithep.caltech.edu/jjb/Nakamichi/nakamichi_rx505_service_manual.pdf This part has the follow writing on it. Unidirectional Auto Reverse / Discrete 3 Head etc etc etc.. Does anyone know where I could get a replacement ? I am pretty bummed with my stupidity.     Please read below  and follow instructions...     Before you forward this message or any other message to someone, please do the following:  1. REMOVE all email addresses that were forwarded or sent to you on the message. Use the delete key, or the editing functions on your email program after hitting the forward button.  2. DO NOT use the TO field to send the mail on. Use the BCC field. This means "Blind Carbon Copy." It will list only the name of each individual receiver on the email. NOBODY ELSE'S email address will be shown. To use BCC simply click BCC instead of TO. It works just the same. 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URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Oct 13 10:20:50 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Ryan Uys via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 10:20:50 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Did some live recording this weekend Message-ID: <57FF43E2.5090808@gam.co.za> Hi all, Not strictly a Nak posting, but I had to share about a recording I did this weekend. I follow the local rock music scene here in South Africa, and on Saturday night I had an opportunity to make a recording of a live performance by my favorite band, Shadowclub. http://shadowclub.net/ I took a stereo send from the venue's desk, and recorded onto cassette. Its a special occasion to slit open the wrapping on NOS MA-XG. I only have limited stock of MA-XG, but I feel such occasions warrant its use. Recording live is a blast, the dynamic range is big, as is the frequency bandwidth. I set up to peak at about 0dB, as unexpected transients can be another +6dB above that. Drum solos showed that I had hi-hats at about -20dB, so really pretty challenging for cassette. As is my usual preference, I used no noise reduction. Back at home, the results are absolutely stunning. Tremendous impact, presence, and of course dynamic range. The MA-XG did a nice job ;) Ryan in South Africa g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\2016\2016-September.txt.txt ************************************************************************ From naktalk at lists.naks.com Mon Sep 5 03:36:27 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Mark Exstedt via Naktalk) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 01:36:27 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Off Line - Need Part for Nakamichi SR-4A Receiver Message-ID: Seeking a Tuner Up button part. This is the button above the 5/10 preset button. Please contact me directly via email. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Tue Sep 20 10:31:57 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (bb via Naktalk) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 10:31:57 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] 680ZX Display Bar Message-ID: <57E0F3FD.7080404@gmail.com> Hi everybody I have a 680ZX with a display bar for which, after having changed the 3 PP caps of the can, everything is OK but the right cursor ! Now I realize that another deck on ebay has the "reverse" symptom: everything works except the full line of the left channel, while the cursor does work. Is this possible to attribute the function of either the full line or the cursor to a particular chip of the can ? Thanks for teaching and helping Bernard. From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Sep 21 14:13:12 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (spok2000@gmx.de via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:13:12 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] 680ZX Display Bar (bb via Naktalk) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 21 Sep 2016, at 12:00, via Naktalk wrote: > > 1. 680ZX Display Bar (bb via Naktalk) > Hi everybody > > I have a 680ZX with a display bar for which, after having changed the 3 > PP caps of the can, everything is OK but the right cursor ! > > Now I realize that another deck on ebay has the "reverse" symptom: > everything works except the full line of the left channel, while the > cursor does work. > > Is this possible to attribute the function of either the full line or > the cursor to a particular chip of the can ? > > Thanks for teaching and helping > > Bernard. Most possibly I think this might be due to a faulty,worn out or dirty Cal/VU/Peak switch. I don't think that the bar or electronics are faulty when every segment itself seems to be alright. Probably it is just an unsure state of the mode selection. Try cleaning the switch and report back. Best of luck +spok+ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 496 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Wed Sep 21 15:24:54 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Garner, Scott H via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 13:24:54 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] EXTERNAL: 680ZX Display Bar In-Reply-To: <57E0F3FD.7080404@gmail.com> References: <57E0F3FD.7080404@gmail.com> Message-ID: If you look on the amplifier section of the schematic, section 13.1 of the service manual, at the top you will see a connection labeled to Azimuth PCB and just to the right a connection labeled from logic board. Between those connections on the schematic is the section of the circuit we need to look at. You will see the Peak/VU/Cal switch. The circuit has IC701, 702,801,802 in it. The section with IC801 and 802 is what you need to look at. IC701,702 is for the left channel, 801,802 for the right. Since part of the right display is working that says that IC801 is working, if it wasn't nothing on the right side would work. IC802 outputs the bar and dot to the indicator PCB C board. Those are feed into IC901 on the indicator PCB. If you have a tape with a test tone on it on a signal generator you can look at the voltages on pins 1,2,3,4 on CN-4 on the Indicator PCB C board. I forget if all 4 should be the same voltage with a test tone feeding the unit or 1 and 3 should be the same and 2 and 4 should be the same. If either of the conditions are met and the display is still not working then the problem is in the indicator PCB c. I would try replacing IC901 then. -----Original Message----- From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of bb via Naktalk Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 2:32 AM To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Display Bar Hi everybody I have a 680ZX with a display bar for which, after having changed the 3 PP caps of the can, everything is OK but the right cursor ! Now I realize that another deck on ebay has the "reverse" symptom: everything works except the full line of the left channel, while the cursor does work. Is this possible to attribute the function of either the full line or the cursor to a particular chip of the can ? Thanks for teaching and helping Bernard. ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Sep 22 02:21:25 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Douglas Guth via Naktalk) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:21:25 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 680ZX meters Message-ID: Hello Bernard, Are you referring to the VU or Peak Hold functions of the meters? I have seen some weird behavior on 680ZX meters when the meter oscillator is out of adjustment. In the service manual there is a procedure for adjusting the meters. First the meter module is removed to gain access to the test point on IC907. The internal clock is adjusted with VR901 on the meter PCB to 25.6kHz at Pin 10 of IC 907 on the Meter PCB. The meter is reinstalled and then the meter level pots (VR701 and VR801 on Switch PCB) are adjusted for 0db on the meters with a 400Hz input signal of 100mV at TP101 and TP 201 on Main Board. The input signal is dropped 20db to 10mV on TP101 and TP201 and the VR901 on the Meter PCB is adjusted for -20db on the meters. The two adjustments are interacting so you may have to repeat the 0db and -20db adjustments several times to set the dynamic range of the meters. I hope this helps. It was over 16-years ago when I worked in a Nakamichi Dealer Service department and the memories are fading! Doug Guth HiFi Hospital Hi everybody > > I have a 680ZX with a display bar for which, after having changed the 3 > PP caps of the can, everything is OK but the right cursor ! > > Now I realize that another deck on ebay has the "reverse" symptom: > everything works except the full line of the left channel, while the > cursor does work. > > Is this possible to attribute the function of either the full line or > the cursor to a particular chip of the can ? > > Thanks for teaching and helping > > Bernard. > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Sep 22 08:44:06 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (bb via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 08:44:06 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] EXTERNAL: 680ZX Display Bar In-Reply-To: References: <57E0F3FD.7080404@gmail.com> Message-ID: <57E37DB6.5060201@gmail.com> Scott Thanks a lot for the detailed answer. I will have a look at theses chips and let you know but that can take a while because of ... time lacking By the way, where is it possible to purchase replacements for the various CMOS logic chips of the CAN in the 680ZX or of the detector PCB and CAN in the 1000ZXL ? (I am talking about PD4066, PD4011, PD4040, PD4025, PD4071, PD4073, PD4001, TC4081, TC4049, TC4023, TC4022...). I was able to find MAX4066 at Mouser but not the other one except OAP as JRC4556, 4558, 4560 Best wishes Bernard Garner, Scott H a écrit : > If you look on the amplifier section of the schematic, section 13.1 of the service manual, at the top you will see a connection labeled to Azimuth PCB and just to the right a connection labeled from logic board. Between those connections on the schematic is the section of the circuit we need to look at. You will see the Peak/VU/Cal switch. The circuit has IC701, 702,801,802 in it. The section with IC801 and 802 is what you need to look at. IC701,702 is for the left channel, 801,802 for the right. Since part of the right display is working that says that IC801 is working, if it wasn't nothing on the right side would work. IC802 outputs the bar and dot to the indicator PCB C board. Those are feed into IC901 on the indicator PCB. If you have a tape with a test tone on it on a signal generator you can look at the voltages on pins 1,2,3,4 on CN-4 on the Indicator PCB C board. I forget if all 4 should be the same voltage with a test tone feeding the unit or 1 and 3 should be the same and 2 and 4 should be the same. If either of the conditions are met and the display is still not working then the problem is in the indicator PCB c. I would try replacing IC901 then. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of bb via Naktalk > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 2:32 AM > To: Talk about Nakamichi Cassette Decks > Subject: EXTERNAL: [naktalk] 680ZX Display Bar > > Hi everybody > > I have a 680ZX with a display bar for which, after having changed the 3 PP caps of the can, everything is OK but the right cursor ! > > Now I realize that another deck on ebay has the "reverse" symptom: > everything works except the full line of the left channel, while the cursor does work. > > Is this possible to attribute the function of either the full line or the cursor to a particular chip of the can ? > > Thanks for teaching and helping > > Bernard. > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Sep 22 08:46:38 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (bb via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 08:46:38 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 680ZX meters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57E37E4E.7090209@gmail.com> Hi Dough, In the present case, it is really, and only, the right cursor missing (whatever the switch position in VU or Peak Hold) Otherwise the display works nicely. Thanks for your input All the best Bernard Douglas Guth via Naktalk a écrit : > Hello Bernard, > Are you referring to the VU or Peak Hold functions of the meters? I > have seen some weird behavior on 680ZX meters when the meter > oscillator is out of adjustment. > > In the service manual there is a procedure for adjusting the meters. > First the meter module is removed to gain access to the test point on > IC907. The internal clock is adjusted with VR901 on the meter PCB to > 25.6kHz at Pin 10 of IC 907 on the Meter PCB. The meter is > reinstalled and then the meter level pots (VR701 and VR801 on Switch > PCB) are adjusted for 0db on the meters with a 400Hz input signal of > 100mV at TP101 and TP 201 on Main Board. The input signal is dropped > 20db to 10mV on TP101 and TP201 and the VR901 on the Meter PCB is > adjusted for -20db on the meters. The two adjustments are interacting > so you may have to repeat the 0db and -20db adjustments several times > to set the dynamic range of the meters. > > I hope this helps. It was over 16-years ago when I worked in a > Nakamichi Dealer Service department and the memories are fading! > > > Doug Guth > HiFi Hospital > > Hi everybody > > I have a 680ZX with a display bar for which, after having changed > the 3 > PP caps of the can, everything is OK but the right cursor ! > > Now I realize that another deck on ebay has the "reverse" symptom: > everything works except the full line of the left channel, while the > cursor does work. > > Is this possible to attribute the function of either the full line or > the cursor to a particular chip of the can ? > > Thanks for teaching and helping > > Bernard. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Also check out the wiki! http://wiki.naks.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk at lists.naks.com mailinglist > Maintain your account here: http://lists.naks.com/mailman/listinfo/naktalk > ========---------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at lists.naks.com Thu Sep 22 14:47:48 2016 From: naktalk at lists.naks.com (Garner, Scott H via Naktalk) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 12:47:48 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] EXTERNAL: Re: Nakamichi 680ZX meters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Since the left side vu and peak are both working and the right side vu is working that proves the oscillator is working. Either the detector board is not receiving the correct voltage for the right side peak, the latch IC901 is not working or the peak/vu/cal switch is not making ground. From: Naktalk [mailto:naktalk-bounces at lists.naks.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Guth via Naktalk Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 6:21 PM To: naktalk at lists.naks.com; naktalk-request at lists.naks.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi 680ZX meters Hello Bernard, Are you referring to the VU or Peak Hold functions of the meters? I have seen some weird behavior on 680ZX meters when the meter oscillator is out of adjustment. In the service manual there is a procedure for adjusting the meters. First the meter module is removed to gain access to the test point on IC907. The internal clock is adjusted with VR901 on the meter PCB to 25.6kHz at Pin 10 of IC 907 on the Meter PCB. The meter is reinstalled and then the meter level pots (VR701 and VR801 on Switch PCB) are adjusted for 0db on the meters with a 400Hz input signal of 100mV at TP101 and TP 201 on Main Board. The input signal is dropped 20db to 10mV on TP101 and TP201 and the VR901 on the Meter PCB is adjusted for -20db on the meters. The two adjustments are interacting so you may have to repeat the 0db and -20db adjustments several times to set the dynamic range of the meters. I hope this helps. It was over 16-years ago when I worked in a Nakamichi Dealer Service department and the memories are fading! Doug Guth HiFi Hospital Hi everybody I have a 680ZX with a display bar for which, after having changed the 3 PP caps of the can, everything is OK but the right cursor ! Now I realize that another deck on ebay has the "reverse" symptom: everything works except the full line of the left channel, while the cursor does work. 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